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[3GenClone]

Because the Big 10 believes they can force the Missouri cable operators to bump the BTN from sports tier to basic tier, bringing in significantly more money for the conference.

Why would they believe that? The Big 10 is flexing their muscle, but the only reason they have this power is because of cable companies. Guess what, the state of Iowa threw a fit when Mediacom wouldn't carry the Big 10 Network on it's basic service. What did Mediacom do? They didn't cave, they raised their rates. Tell the good people in St. Louis/Kansas City that they now have to pay more so they can see the Tigers get kicked around by Ohio St every year - I don't think you can sell that.

 

[everyyard]

Indiana is FAR from an Ag school..... They're just like Iowa...

Purdue and Illinois are probably the Ag schools they have. Both are VERY good schools academically also.

Penn State is their ag school. seriously.

 

[GoShow97]

I know very little about these things... so forgive me.

While I agree that athletically ISU bring very few $$$ to the table, even fewer tv sets, prestige, etc.... it would seem that alot of the posturing by many is that conference affliation goes well beyond athletics and into research and $$$ there. Many times over the amount of money athletics bring in. Wouldn't ISU be a prime player with our engineering and ag sciences?

I know Purdue is also a top (maybe THE top) engineering school. Does the Big 10 even touch Ag? Indiana maybe?

Both Purdue and Illinois have strong Ag programs.

 

[GoShow97]

Indiana is FAR from an Ag school..... They're just like Iowa...

Purdue and Illinois are probably the Ag schools they have. Both are VERY good schools academically also.

Sorry didn't see this before my post.

 

[alarson]

What did Mediacom do? They didn't cave,

mediacom caved.

 

[3GenClone]

mediacom caved.

check your cable bill. If you have cable/satellite, you pay about $1 a month for the convenience of the Big 10 Network on your basic package. Multiply that by the millions in each market of the Big 10 footprint and that's some hefty cash for the cable company.

 

[tejasclone]

I would love, love, love to play the Cy-Hawk game during Rivalry Week every year. If you think the game is intense and fun now, imagine if bowl placement/division titles were on the line. The 2001 game was so much more awesome for this very reason.

 

[hawkeyescott]

Why would they believe that? The Big 10 is flexing their muscle, but the only reason they have this power is because of cable companies. Guess what, the state of Iowa threw a fit when Mediacom wouldn't carry the Big 10 Network on it's basic service. What did Mediacom do? They didn't cave, they raised their rates. Tell the good people in St. Louis/Kansas City that they now have to pay more so they can see the Tigers get kicked around by Ohio St every year - I don't think you can sell that.

Seriously, are you drunk this morning? Mediacom did cave and put the BTN on basic cable instead of a sports tier. They raised their rates because they started carrying the BTN when they caved because they also started losing subscribers to satellite that already had the BTN.

 

[hawkeyescott]

check your cable bill. If you have cable/satellite, you pay about $1 a month for the convenience of the Big 10 Network on your basic package. Multiply that by the millions in each market of the Big 10 footprint and that's some hefty cash for the cable company.

It isn't serious cash to the cable company, the cable company might charge a $1 to their customer but the BTN is charging that cable company 70 cents of that dollar to carry the network.

 

[DaddyMac]

mediacom caved.

check your cable bill. If you have cable/satellite, you pay about $1 a month for the convenience of the Big 10 Network on your basic package. Multiply that by the millions in each market of the Big 10 footprint and that's some hefty cash for the cable company.

I believe you guys are saying the same thing.

Mediacom wanted BTN on an optional sports tier, then ultimately caved and put it on basic programming - cost of which they passed off to the subscriber.

 

[Tre4ISU]

The thing that I think a lot of those Hawkeye fans fail to realize is that they make a lot mor emoney because they are in the Big Ten. Switch conferences and the gap is significantly narrowed. Like it was shown earlier, the state as a whole would gain 10 million dollars if we went to the big ten and generated no money for the conference.

 

[cyclonepower]

The thing that I think a lot of those Hawkeye fans fail to realize is that they make a lot mor emoney because they are in the Big Ten. Switch conferences and the gap is significantly narrowed. Like it was shown earlier, the state as a whole would gain 10 million dollars if we went to the big ten and generated no money for the conference.

yet we have people on here that have been bagging on the Big 10 for years...

 

[Clone83]

Most Big Ten schools are ag/land grant schools (and generally among the best):

Minnesota
Wisconsin
Illinois
Purdue
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State

Should they join, the list would also include:

Nebraska
Missouri

Those that are not:

Iowa
Michigan
Northwestern
Indiana
(Notre Dame, if it joins)

I'm not sure, but I think Rutgers probably is, UConn definitely is, Pittsburg is not, nor is Syracuse (Cornell is it in New York).

 

[jdoggivjc]

Most Big Ten schools are ag/land grant schools (and generally among the best):

Minnesota
Wisconsin
Illinois
Purdue
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State

Should they join, the list would also include:

Nebraska
Missouri

Those that are not:

Iowa
Michigan
Northwestern
Indiana
(Notre Dame, if it joins)

I'm not sure, but I think Rutgers probably is, UConn definitely is, Pittsburg is not, nor is Syracuse (Cornell is it in New York).

First, a state can have multiple land grant universities, but you're right - Cornell is the only land grant in New York.

Another reason that can go on the ISU to Big 10 website - if ISU were to join the Big 10, not only would they have the school that pioneered the system (MSU), but they would also have the first official land grant school in the United States (ISU):

Iowa

• Iowa State University

In 1862, Iowa became first state in nation to accept the provisions of the Morrill Act, and in so doing designated Iowa State Univ. as its land grant institution.
Michigan

• Michigan State University

Founded in 1855 by the State with its own grants of land, this was the pioneer institution and served as a model for the Federal Morrill Act in 1862.

List of land-grant universities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia