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His offspring must have migrated to section 2. Does the moron in your section have T-Rex type arms?
I’ve got one of those behind me as well… was screaming the entire game every time we ran the ball. “Why are we running the ball, they need to throw every play”.
Then next drive they threw the ball 3 times and had 3 incompletions and he was pissed. “We only took 19 seconds off the clock, we can’t win like that”
Not sure he understands how all of that works!
 

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From CMC's postgame, he doesn't want to run the QB because they might get hurt. Probably telling Dekkers, (and as we saw with Purdy) stay in the pocket.
I mean I get not doing it tons of times and running him smartly but it's an effective weapon that we obviously need. Seems dumb to not use it at all.
 

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I’ve got one of those behind me as well… was screaming the entire game every time we ran the ball. “Why are we running the ball, they need to throw every play”.
Then next drive they threw the ball 3 times and had 3 incompletions and he was pissed. “We only took 19 seconds off the clock, we can’t win like that”
Not sure he understands how all of that works!
I was as frustrated as the next person (although I don't verbalize it at games like the loud mouth know-it-alls). However, I thought the post-game guys (Chris, Jack, etc.) explained that well about why ISU was running (even though it was not successful). Made sense to me. It's a clock management thing trying to shorten the game more than anything. Hopefully, # 5 can develop into a back that you want to see carry the ball more and more. I thought he showed some promise yesterday.
 

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I was as frustrated as the next person (although I don't verbalize it at games like the loud mouth know-it-alls). However, I thought the post-game guys (Chris, Jack, etc.) explained that well about why ISU was running (even though it was not successful). Made sense to me. It's a clock management thing trying to shorten the game more than anything. Hopefully, # 5 can develop into a back that you want to see carry the ball more and more. I thought he showed some promise yesterday.
There is a huge difference between running slow developing plays out of shotgun and doing play action or run pass option from under center.

The problem is style, not substance.
 

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Best part of the game......

Fans throwing football out of stadium.....
Sad but true....

Any idea what ended up happening to them??......hopefully just booted......
Saw security escort the young man out after the young guy signaled the crowd in triumph.
 
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The couple of guys behind us should have been calling plays yesterday. No play by play person has anything on these two coaches in waiting. I think the one guy just liked talking to himself because no one else around him would talk to him.
My wife called the fake field goal.
 

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My game thoughts after OU are the same thoughts I've had after nearly every game the last several years: Manning has got to go.

I get it - outside of X, Dekkers, and Brock (when he was healthy), we just don't have the horses we've had over the past several years. So why are we running the offense like we do? As much as I hated our offensive philosophy the last several years, at least we had Purdy, Montgomery, Hall, and a number of TEs to at least give it a shot. It was predictable, but we had players opposing defenses couldn't keep in check most of the time, so much of the time it worked out. We don't have that this year and it's exposing just how bad this offense is philosophically and schematically. Yes, our offense isn't on par to what it has been in previous years, but the coaches aren't even putting them in a position to even have a chance at success.

What I hated in previous years with Manning is the offense should have been even better than what it was based on the talent that we had at the time. What is so sickening this year is it's been exposed just how bad Manning really is at his job - and there's no indication that Campbell is going to do anything about it.
 

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What was the deal with the north gate yesterday? The last time it was that bad was the first game of digital tickets with no tents over the scanners?

Self scanners would have to help this right?
 

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Just take your pick on which offensive lineman will get pushed back 3 yards on running plays. Or which offensive lineman will totally whiff on a passing play. Numbers I saw alot were 55, 54 and 72. I noticed after reviewing the replay, its basically guaranteed there will be at least one whiff on every passing play and one guy get pushed back 3-4 yards on every running play. Thep lays that none of that happens turn out pretty well.
 
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Lots to unpack here……

I get that CMC doesn’t want to get Dekkers hurt (especially on designed QB runs). I would definitely minimize the designed runs as they would be ineffective at best given what we already know.

I think this ends up being a case of “would you rather”. So, would you rather have him take a sack in the pocket (negative play, behind the chains), and to me, higher potential for injury, or would you rather coach him to take off, get what he can, and get down with little or minimal contact? Sure, sometimes you may have to put your shoulder down to get the extra yards, first down, etc. With how teams are defending us (yesterday was a prime example) the middle of the field (8-10 yard range) was wide open. Until we make defenders have to account for that (better run play/RPO design, shallower zones, spy, etc.) it will continue to be wide open.

I thought it was mildly amusing after the fake FG, CMC was visibly upset and yelling (probably at the players / execution). I thought to myself, “which coach do you hold accountable for that?” - all of them??? going back to his comments from earlier in the week.

Additionally, it seems that we really struggle with tempo / stringing plays together. Numerous instances yesterday where we had a good gain, got the first down, and couldn’t immediately connect on another positive play, often times going with a read inside zone run which went for nothing or lost yards, putting us behind the chains. Then when we needed the tempo (late in the game), we looked out of sorts and hurried (obviously) which lead to execution problems.

Finally, I haven’t seen this anywhere else, but has anyone else noticed the design of our punt formation? In most formations, the punter is ~15 yards deep in line with the LS. In our formation the punter lines up at an angle to the center (more in line with the guard, maybe even the tackle in the formation. Now I understand a fair amount of football, but how does this alignment make any sense? To me the angles create issues (snap, shorter distance to the punter on that side, etc.) I haven’t went back to look at our blocks for the year but IIRC the Iowa ones were to the shorter side. Now was blocking an issue, yes, but giving the punt rush a shorter distance/angle to me makes absolutely zero sense.
 
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From CMC's postgame, he doesn't want to run the QB because they might get hurt. Probably telling Dekkers, (and as we saw with Purdy) stay in the pocket.

Dekkers gives me a John Elway running vibe: great when the play breaks down and there is open field to run into. But he isn't Colin Klein, you don't call his number 15 times a game.
 

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I’ve got one of those behind me as well… was screaming the entire game every time we ran the ball. “Why are we running the ball, they need to throw every play”.
Then next drive they threw the ball 3 times and had 3 incompletions and he was pissed. “We only took 19 seconds off the clock, we can’t win like that”
Not sure he understands how all of that works!

Section B? I kept hearing that too. Dumb.

As poor as the run game was going, they do need to keep pounding to wear teams down. There was actually a few runs in the 2nd half where it started to produce a little, got a 1st down. I think they ran it twice in a row, got a 1st down, and then 3 passes for like 2 yards and punt.

I checked - 2nd drive of the 2nd half:
Norton for 4yds
HD to X for 12yds & 1st down
Norton for 8yds
Norton for 12yds & 1st down
HD to Noel no gain
HD to Silas no gain
HD incomplete pass
Punt
 
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What was the deal with the north gate yesterday? The last time it was that bad was the first game of digital tickets with no tents over the scanners?

Self scanners would have to help this right?

I think it was just the process of everyone tailgating then realizing hey it's game time, I walked over to the east gate and got right in. (Well at least way better than the north gates.
 

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Section B? I kept hearing that too. Dumb.

As poor as the run game was going, they do need to keep pounding to wear teams down. There was actually a few runs in the 2nd half where it started to produce a little, got a 1st down. I think they ran it twice in a row, got a 1st down, and then 3 passes for like 2 yards and punt.

I checked - 2nd drive of the 2nd half:
Norton for 4yds
HD to X for 12yds & 1st down
Norton for 8yds
Norton for 12yds & 1st down
HD to Noel no gain
HD to Silas no gain
HD incomplete pass
Punt

Was listening to this on the radio JW kept talking about doubling the longest run from scrimmage each time it happened. LOL.
 

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I think it was just the process of everyone tailgating then realizing hey it's game time, I walked over to the east gate and got right in. (Well at least way better than the north gates.
I feel like that happens every game. It seemed to move much slower than previous lines and there were less lanes open at half as well.
Might have just been a staffing issue
 

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Lots to unpack here……



I thought it was mildly amusing after the fake FG, CMC was visibly upset and yelling (probably at the players / execution). I thought to myself, “which coach do you hold accountable for that?” - all of them??? going back to his comments from earlier in the week.
He was yelling at Heacock - Heacock is in charge FG defense
 

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