Has Paul Rhoads run out of gas? Is this the year we lay an egg?
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That wasn't really ever my point but ok. Just assume I'm talking mad **** about ISU.
One game? I'm sure you could track down plenty of bad one game performances by freshman QBs who went on to have very nice careers.
If we go with the fluke/fortunate route, last year's team could have finished 2-10.
UNI, Iowa, UConn, KU and OSU all could have been losses.
Two of those (UNI and KU) meet the "shouldn't have been that close" criteria. Not pretty, but were wins.
OSU: Unprecedented. Many times, Iowa State has "almost" won games like that. This time: W.
Iowa: Imagine if everything about that game went exactly the same, but was a loss.
Last season could have been 2008. But it wasn't.
I'm not going to get into predicting win totals for this year, but I think 4 or less is a bit pessimistic.
On the other hand, I hope we don't get to a point that we run a good coach out of town. CPR has said it himself, the hardest thing for him and his staff to do is find diamonds in the rough and do it successfully every time. A few prospects not panning out can be the difference between an 7-8 win season and a 5-6 win season for a team like ISU. And there's a big difference between a 7-8 win season and a 5-6 win season.
Maybe this won't be the year, but this coaching staff will have an 'off' year. They may even have 2 in a row. If we can stick behind a good coach thru that, they can rebound. If not, we might be hiring another Chizik.
Look at our neighbors to the east. They've had seasons that didn't live up to the pie-in-the-sky fan expectations. They even missed a bowl game in '07, but although some have wished for it, they haven't run captain Kirk out of town, and they're reaping the benefits from it. Are they world beaters? No, and I'd be the first to point out that they're paying KF a heck of a lot for the results they're getting, but they are hitting bowl games every year except 1 (disregarding the first 2 years), and hitting really good ones here and there. Would we accept winning a conference title one year then not making a bowl game 3 years later? I'll even grant that that scenario would be a lot bigger of a deal in the big 12 (winning conference title is harder), but I hope we wouldn't show CPR the door in that case. Jeezus I hate looking at Iowa stats, but there's a parallel: KF started 1-10, hit 11-2 in 4 years. 3 seasons over 10 wins, then 3 with 6-7 wins. Back up to 11-2 2 years after that, but back down to 8 and 7 after that.
Stability means something.
On the other hand, I hope we don't get to a point that we run a good coach out of town. CPR has said it himself, the hardest thing for him and his staff to do is find diamonds in the rough and do it successfully every time. A few prospects not panning out can be the difference between an 7-8 win season and a 5-6 win season for a team like ISU. And there's a big difference between a 7-8 win season and a 5-6 win season.
Maybe this won't be the year, but this coaching staff will have an 'off' year. They may even have 2 in a row. If we can stick behind a good coach thru that, they can rebound. If not, we might be hiring another Chizik.
Look at our neighbors to the east. They've had seasons that didn't live up to the pie-in-the-sky fan expectations. They even missed a bowl game in '07, but although some have wished for it, they haven't run captain Kirk out of town, and they're reaping the benefits from it. Are they world beaters? No, and I'd be the first to point out that they're paying KF a heck of a lot for the results they're getting, but they are hitting bowl games every year except 1 (disregarding the first 2 years), and hitting really good ones here and there. Would we accept winning a conference title one year then not making a bowl game 3 years later? I'll even grant that that scenario would be a lot bigger of a deal in the big 12 (winning conference title is harder), but I hope we wouldn't show CPR the door in that case. Jeezus I hate looking at Iowa stats, but there's a parallel: KF started 1-10, hit 11-2 in 4 years. 3 seasons over 10 wins, then 3 with 6-7 wins. Back up to 11-2 2 years after that, but back down to 8 and 7 after that.
Stability means something.
Rabbuk, it's one thing to be skeptical, why not? But you sound like a hawkeye in my honest opinion. Explain to me why we shouldnt be favored in the following games?
Tulsa (Hom)
WKU (Home)
BU (Home)
TTech (Home)
KU (Lawrence)
For conversation sake, say we give up a game there. We would still need to lose every other game on the schedule to not peak your 4 point pinnacle prediction.
With that we lose to Iowa which imo, the only advantage Iowa has over us is home field, I think we field a better team.
WVU home even though WVU will probably be prepping for big games before and after us. Upset written all over it.
KSU comes to Ames and has yet to show they are significantly better than us. Winnable but it's okay not to predict it.
OU at home, probable loss but crazier things have happened.
A depleated OSU team on the road with huge question marks. I would still mark as a loss but you never know.
UT on road, meh, I am not banking on this one.
@ TCU, tough one as well, but ripe for the upset as they are newbies to this level of constant talent.
Tulsa (Hom)
WKU (Home)
BU (Home)
TTech (Home)
KU (Lawrence)
For conversation sake, say we give up a game there. We would still need to lose every other game on the schedule to not peak your 4 point pinnacle prediction.
With that we lose to Iowa which imo, the only advantage Iowa has over us is home field, I think we field a better team.
WVU home even though WVU will probably be prepping for big games before and after us. Upset written all over it.
KSU comes to Ames and has yet to show they are significantly better than us. Winnable but it's okay not to predict it.
OU at home, probable loss but crazier things have happened.
A depleated OSU team on the road with huge question marks. I would still mark as a loss but you never know.
UT on road, meh, I am not banking on this one.
@ TCU, tough one as well, but ripe for the upset as they are newbies to this level of constant talent.
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I had been thinking ISU would go 5-7 but you've got me feeling more optimistic now. Rep for you
That might be a little strong, but statistically JB and SJ were the 2 worst QB's in the league last year - by quite a bit.
I just have to believe that one of them (if not both) will be better this year.
I think CPR is doing a fine job and there's plenty of gas in the ISU football tank. as far as the QB's are concerned, you should check your stats. We are talking Big 12 conference correct? See the stats Team and Individual. We are not the worst.
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