Hawkins Fired

[gocubs2118]

So what would you rather have: A five year average recruiting rank of 48, or a five year average recruiting rank of 67?

It all depends on how the coaching staff develops that talent. Sure its great to have a talented recruiting class but if your coaching staff doesn't do anything with that talent, does it really matter?

 

[jbhtexas]

It all depends on how the coaching staff develops that talent. Sure its great to have a talented recruiting class but if your coaching staff doesn't do anything with that talent, does it really matter?

Yes, I think it does matter. Many times, talent can mask sub-par coaching. Good coaching can somewhat overcome poor talent. It likely takes both to get beyond mediocre/average.

 

[CYVADER]

So what would you rather have: A five year average recruiting rank of 48, or a five year average recruiting rank of 67?

what is the last 5 years avg. for Utah, Boise, TCU, and what is the last 5 year avg for Notre Dame, Michigan, Miami?

point is, you get players that fit. right now, we are using a lot of players that might not have originally fit, but have been molded and are now excelling.

we've had 5-4star recruits the last 5 years-jj bass(didn't live up to hype), sed(coming off bench), money(nice role player), and chris and anthony young-neither of which is lighting it up this year-although chris may be redshirting.

 

[jbhtexas]

Watching the press conference with the interim head coach, I think he's gonna do a perfectly fine job of getting the Buffs up to play on Saturday. Plus he's been with the program for something like 22 years and the impression I get is there is a whole lot more respect for him among the players and fans than there was for Hawkins.I wouldn't write off this team.

I'm hoping for a blowout, but this isn't going to be a walk in the park. We're gonna have to come ready to play.

This. I hope it does turn out to be an easy win (which some here seem to think it should be), but nothing I've seen indicates that it should automatically be one. On offense, ISU is 9th and CU is 11th in the Big 12 (3 PPG difference), and on defense, ISU is 9th and CU is 10th in the Big 12 (less than 1 ppg difference).

 

[tazclone]

I didnt read the entire thread so perhaps this has been mentioned, but the whole, "let's go win this one for coach" mentality scares me.
See: Coach McCarney's last game as a Cyclone.

1. We beat Mizzou in DMac's last game but we lost to CU the week after DMac announced his resignation. We did not play inspired football that week.
2. DMac was beloved by his players and fans. To this day many think he should have never been let go. Everyone thinks hawkins should be gone and most wanted him gone last year
3. One week is not enough time to change things up much. Cabral will come in and go status quo with a few new wrinkles. Same players, divided team, and more chaos then normal.
4. I would not want to play CU the last two games. I think they will play much better trying to get Cabral the job. The guy has lasted 4 coaches and this will be his second interim gig.

With all that said, we always play like crapola in Boulder. ALWAYS. The thin air, the long travel, the apathetic fans...I have never seen us play a good game in Boulder. We need to come out and get up big time to demoralize them. then hope to hang on as our lack of depth will hurt us.

 

[HiltonMagic]

So what would you rather have: A five year average recruiting rank of 48, or a five year average recruiting rank of 67?

So you'd rather have Colorado's players than ISU's? That's a nice slap in the face to this team.

 

[jbhtexas]

So you'd rather have Colorado's players than ISU's? That's a nice slap in the face to this team.

I'd rather have more talented players than less talented players. That's not a slap in the face to anybody, that's reality. As pointed out above, class ranks are not the only indicator of talent. However, if I'm mandated to make a bowl game in three years, and I'm given the option to have a team with average class rank of 48 and another with average class rank of 67, absent of any other information, I'll take my chances with the average class rank of 48.

As I posted elsewhere, ISU and CU are nearly identical in offense and defense PPG (ISU is slightly better in both offensive and defensive PPG, and CU is slightly better in offensive YPG). If it is given the CPR is a better coach than Hawkins, shouldn't there be some separation between ISU and CU if ISU is equally or more talented than CU?

As someone posted in another thread quoting Bill Parcels, you are who your record says you are, and at this point in the season, I'd add that your stats are pretty much an indicator of what you can and can't do.

 

[CYVADER]

I'd rather have more talented players than less talented players. That's not a slap in the face to anybody, that's reality. As pointed out above, class ranks are not the only indicator of talent. However, if I'm mandated to make a bowl game in three years, and I'm given the option to have a team with average class rank of 48 and another with average class rank of 67, absent of any other information, I'll take my chances with the average class rank of 48.

As I posted elsewhere, ISU and CU are nearly identical in offense and defense PPG (ISU is slightly better in both offensive and defensive PPG, and CU is slightly better in offensive YPG). If it is given the CPR is a better coach than Hawkins, shouldn't there be some separation between ISU and CU if ISU is equally or more talented than CU?

As someone posted in another thread quoting Bill Parcels, you are who your record says you are, and at this point in the season, I'd add that your stats are pretty much an indicator of what you can and can't do.

what would those stats be if ISU and CU switched schedules?

 

[jbhtexas]

what would those stats be if ISU and CU switched schedules?

Probably not that much different.
Both ISU and CU lost to OU. CU lost by 33; ISU lost by 52.
Taylor Martinez will probably be healthy when CU plays NU.
CU played BU, while ISU got UT; this year, UT is easier.
CU has already played MU.
Cal waxed CU 51-7, so CU's stats probably took a beating there.

 

[ajk4st8]

Colorado's offense scares the crap out of me. McKnight will probably catch about 100 passes. He is a Cyclone killer.

It is insane they have done so poorly with on offense. They have one of the top players in the entire country on offense. They have a solid RB. They have great WRs. Their QBs have experience. I just dont get how they aren't more dynamic.

Maybe Im just a bit freaked out because everytime Ive watched them play this year, they have played amazing.

 

[A-town Cy]

Colorado's offense scares the crap out of me. McKnight will probably catch about 100 passes. He is a Cyclone killer.

It is insane they have done so poorly with on offense. They have one of the top players in the entire country on offense. They have a solid RB. They have great WRs. Their QBs have experience. I just dont get how they aren't more dynamic.

Maybe Im just a bit freaked out because everytime Ive watched them play this year, they have played amazing.

A 5-6 rb scares me too.

 

[ajk4st8]

I'd rather have more talented players than less talented players. That's not a slap in the face to anybody, that's reality. As pointed out above, class ranks are not the only indicator of talent. However, if I'm mandated to make a bowl game in three years, and I'm given the option to have a team with average class rank of 48 and another with average class rank of 67, absent of any other information, I'll take my chances with the average class rank of 48.

As I posted elsewhere, ISU and CU are nearly identical in offense and defense PPG (ISU is slightly better in both offensive and defensive PPG, and CU is slightly better in offensive YPG). If it is given the CPR is a better coach than Hawkins, shouldn't there be some separation between ISU and CU if ISU is equally or more talented than CU?

As someone posted in another thread quoting Bill Parcels, you are who your record says you are, and at this point in the season, I'd add that your stats are pretty much an indicator of what you can and can't do.

Well we are 3-3 to their 0-6. Thats a lot of seperation.

5 years ago I would have said I would have taken the more talented kids. Now I say give me the toughest kids around. CPR and Freerentz are very close in this philosophy. Seems to be working for both.

 

[ajk4st8]

A 5-6 rb scares me too.

Have you seen him play? He is a good player. He is putting up AROB type numbers.

200 carries for 912 yards.


I hope like crazy we win this game. But I wont be surprised one way or another win or lose.

 

[CYVADER]

they also got colorado st-comparable to uni?
hawaii-comparable to niu?
iowa>>cal
utah>>georgia
tech>mizzou
baylor>kstate
tech-we beat,they lost
oklahoma-both lost
kansas-we beat, they lost

 

[A-town Cy]

Have you seen him play? He is a good player. He is putting up AROB type numbers.

200 carries for 912 yards.


I hope like crazy we win this game. But I wont be surprised one way or another win or lose.

Yeah I wasn't being sarcastic.

 

[Cyfan1843]

I think we will win because we have a better team. I don't like playing in Colorado it feels like we never play well there. But as for the rallying around an interm coach Minnesota is sure not doing a good job of it.