Hornacek lets Nohah skip dinner with cadets

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He is half French -- his dad a French Tennis star in the 80's who would be speaking German if not
for West Point grads in WW2 defending French and saving their azzes from Nazi regime

I guess Noah is like the rest of the Millennials who have ZERO sense of history and no perspective on the big picture. His azz might not even be here if not for West Point grads
 
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Again, I guarantee he was not doing it to spite the people at West Point. But if you are going to protest war in America, West Point Military Academy is the most appropriate place to express your anti-war stance, because people will notice your absence and pay attention. He wasn't doing it because the students of West Point are choosing to go into war.

Visited West Point in 1997 and 2005. Hollowed ground.

I guess some of you globalists want us to lay down our arms and blend in with the 3rd world countries.

We can become lawless and Noah can do without our military or even police protection...and we'll find out how brave he is defending himself
 
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He is free to believe and act as he wishes; his freedom derives from his status as human being, not from West Point.

As sons and daughters of the Enlightenment, why would we shackle him, compel him to submerge himself under the weight of the majority's wishes? He cannot damage you; you damage yourself if you hold such intolerant political tenants.
 

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It seems like teams are doing more and more to push support for the military. For instance, there were at least three occasions during the Iowa State game. 1) Pregame honoring of those who served in each military branch, 2) wounded warrior tribute, and 3) Hero of the Game.

These may be great things to do, but they are just begging for responses, such as from those who have strong disagreement with the decisions that put the wounded warrior in a position to be wounded.

I wish we could let the game just be the game. One of the reasons I go to games is to get away from things that concern me much of the rest of the time.
 

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People constantly ignorantly criticize "Why isn't anyone doing anything about Chicago". Here's a guy who has been trying to do something about Chicago's problems and he's criticized for respectfully exercising his freedom as an American.

It's funny the "president who tells it like it is" people are the ones who have the biggest problem with people living their lives how they want to.

Not one of those people, obviously, and I share his frustration with an open ended war. I just think it would be more effective and appropriate placing the blame where it actually lies, which is in DC, not West Point.
 

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Visited West Point in 1997 and 2005. Hollowed ground.

I guess some of you globalists want us to lay down our arms and blend in with the 3rd world countries.

We can become lawless and Noah can do without our military or even police protection...and we'll find out how brave he is defending himself
Seems dangerous to hollow out the ground beneath the school. Accident waiting to happen.
 

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It seems like teams are doing more and more to push support for the military. For instance, there were at least three occasions during the Iowa State game. 1) Pregame honoring of those who served in each military branch, 2) wounded warrior tribute, and 3) Hero of the Game.

These may be great things to do, but they are just begging for responses, such as from those who have strong disagreement with the decisions that put the wounded warrior in a position to be wounded.

I wish we could let the game just be the game. One of the reasons I go to games is to get away from things that concern me much of the rest of the time.


I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It does seem like a ton of overkill. Sometimes I wish we'd support our troops in tangible ways. Like supporting pay increased (increases in our taxes) or supporting their mental health.

Supporting the military isn't just having dinner at West Point or having 3 recognitions at a stupid football game.
 
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Not one of those people, obviously, and I share his frustration with an open ended war. I just think it would be more effective and appropriate placing the blame where it actually lies, which is in DC, not West Point.

He probably does. This is just the only way he has to show it.

He respectfully not going to a dinner. It's not like he's personally insulting them.
 

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You guys are missing the truth here. Noah would have had to shower to attend the dinner. Noah doesn't shower.


In all seriousness the guy has to smell.
 

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He probably does. This is just the only way he has to show it.

He respectfully not going to a dinner. It's not like he's personally insulting them.

I am anti-war too. But protests like this hardly shed light on what he is protesting against -- wars
The protest sheds light on other things-- freedom of expression, freedom to protest etc.

If his absence was not a protest, but was simply because he didn't feel comfortable, then I can't fault him.
 
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I am anti-war too. But protests like this hardly shed light on what he is protesting against -- wars
The protest sheds light on other things-- freedom of expression, freedom to protest etc.

If his absence was not a protest, but was simply because he didn't feel comfortable, then I can't fault him.
I mean, did you even read the article?

“It’s not my way of saying anything – I was not comfortable,’’ Noah said.
 

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I mean, did you even read the article?

Yes, but then he says exactly why he is not comfortable

"but it’s hard for me to understand why we go to war and why kids have to kill kids all around the world,’’

If not comfortable going, don't go. But when you link your absence to your anti-war stance, your absence can certainly be seen as a sign of protest.
 

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Yes, but then he says exactly why he is not comfortable

"but it’s hard for me to understand why we go to war and why kids have to kill kids all around the world,’’

If not comfortable going, don't go. But when you link your absence to your anti-war stance, your absence can certainly be seen as a sign of protest.
Even if you specifically say that it's not a protest? Ok.
 

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I dont think he chose not to go because he hated the men of service, for going to war. But I think he is just making the decision because it will get his point across. I guarantee he didn't do it with the mindset "**** these soldiers, how dare they fight in a war."

How can you or any of us "guarantee" what Noah's intentions or motives were? We can (& obviously are going to) speculate, but that is just an odd statement, IMO.

Noah's decision is not too dissimilar to the protests we often see groups gathering for. Personally, I don't think those things will ever effect much change, but it's the right of the protester(s) to do so, if they find the cause worthy.
 

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Yes, but then he says exactly why he is not comfortable

"but it’s hard for me to understand why we go to war and why kids have to kill kids all around the world,’’

If not comfortable going, don't go. But when you link your absence to your anti-war stance, your absence can certainly be seen as a sign of protest.

How else would he explain his absence?