how will you feel at the start of next season?

How will you feel at the start of the next season?

  • This is the year we turn it around!

    Votes: 45 29.0%
  • I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.

    Votes: 72 46.5%
  • I'm trying, but with McD at the helm I just can't get into this team.

    Votes: 15 9.7%
  • If losing means McD gets fired, then every game is a win!

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Don't care at all. Wake me when McDermott is gone.

    Votes: 22 14.2%

  • Total voters
    155

PJZ

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I'm sure I am in the silent minority here, but I can't stay quiet forever. I think we're better off if CB and MG declare and hire agents.

Bash me if you must, but I feel we play better as a team with CB on the bench, and MG turns the ball over way too much.

I hate myself for saying this, because I like both of these kids, but I voted "next year is the year" because I assume they are both bringing home paychecks next year.

So you think that we are going to be better without our two best players? Yes, I'd say that you are in the minority there.
 

TheHelgo

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no matter how frustrated I get, I still get excited and optimistic every year, so I am clearly hoping for the best. JP and Mac said all the right things today, and I REALLY hope this works out.

The one thing I was frustrated about with today's presser though was the comments about how we have to be creative due to our crappy budget. I hate that argument, because it will inevitably bring out the 'we need to switch conference' folks.
 

enisthemenace

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So you think that we are going to be better without our two best players? Yes, I'd say that you are in the minority there.

I certainly understand this, because yes, they are our two best 'individual' players, and it's not even close, so my initial post my seem counter-intuitive.

However, I'm not sure it can be argued that CB has been pressing all year, and presses the most when we need a big bucket. I can't count the number of times when I have felt we are going to get over the hump in a game, only to see a really questionable forced shot by him. Invariably, it ends up with the other team taking the rebound (or turnover) and, either, draining a huge three or has numbers on a run-out, finishing with a huge dunk. Those are momentum killers.

I hesitated to put MG in this conversation, because he plays so hard, especially on the offensive glass, but he too forces many shots, or turns the ball over, at extremely inopportune times.

I really do think we are extremely predictable with them on the court. I hate to say this, but how do you explain the number of runs we have gone on when one, or both, are in foul trouble (or just having a blow)? How did we pull out the win at KSU, really in dominate OT fashion (I know, the score does not indicate dominance, but we did dominate that OT session) with CB out due to fouls and MG gimpy?

It just seems to me we are somehow more difficult to guard, and we make less mistakes, when they are both off the floor. Maybe it's because we don't stand around and watch our 'best players' hoping they will get it done? Again, all of this is IMHO, and a long winded answer to a fair question.
 

marothisu

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Here's what's going to happen with me...I'm apathetic now, I'm going to get slightly less apathetic as the next season nears and then i expect to be disappointed again. The only way I don't start out apathetic is if we win 3+ games in the Big 12 tournament.
 

CycloneErik

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no matter how frustrated I get, I still get excited and optimistic every year, so I am clearly hoping for the best. JP and Mac said all the right things today, and I REALLY hope this works out.

The one thing I was frustrated about with today's presser though was the comments about how we have to be creative due to our crappy budget. I hate that argument, because it will inevitably bring out the 'we need to switch conference' folks.

If we did, would that make us the "Mac to MAC Champions?"


I'll understand if you want negative rep brought back for this one. I think I do.
 

URBCLONE

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Okay, heading into the conference tourney and next season I feel terrible. WHY? Did you hear/read the press conference??? I was disappointed that GM was coming back, and I knew I shouldn't have even glanced at it but you know, I thought maybe I'll hear something that makes me believe and be excited about next year, SUCKER!!!

I've lost a ton of respect for GM this year, AS A COACH, and no I've lost just as much for JP, AS HIS BOSS. WHAT KIND OF EXPECTATIONS DO WE HAVE??? GM said he never felt he wouldn't be the coach at ISU???? Why the heck not?? If that was my job performance I would have expected to be fired, no wonder he doesn't win, there's no pressure from his boss. JP repeated talked about the character, well if that's the only measure we are concerned about then why not just go to the best students in the country and give them scholarships regardless if they can play???? I agree we need student athletes that aren't going to screw up, but you need to balance that with winning, and in the last 4 years if we had at least had a .500 conference record, or shown some improvement from year to year then I'd buy, but with this, it's gotten worse.

NEXT YEAR???? First, GM says he does't plan on changing things!!!! YOUR COACHING IS COSTING US THE GAMES, NOT THE PLAYERS!!!!! YOU PLAY TO YOUR STRENGTHS!!!! So, we get to head into next year with the same plan, and without our two best players, GREAT. Then, JP thinks it's unfair to expect this team to make it to the NCAA tourney???? AFTER 5 STINKING YEARS???? I am dreading next year, but won't cheer against them to get someone fired, just hoping a light goes on in one of these two guys heads because we got a big fat snowjob today and it sucks to be a fan hearing that crap. When you screw up and don't execute you stand up as a man and say "I screwed up, I failed you, and I will do the things I need to do to fix it". You don't stand there as a boss and support a guy who says I am sticking with my plan, which has produced 3 years of 4 win seasons in the conference, you tell him to have the "come to Jesus" talk and change his ways.

I guess the biggest thing that stands out to me is just how fortunate we are the Chizik left on his own, because I there's NO WAY Jamie's Pride is going to let him get in the way and admit HE SCREWED up and made a bad hire, which is exactly what GM is to date.

THIS!!! We did get snowed today. Would have been more refreshing just to hear JP admit the truth - we can't afford to fire a guy who is clearly in over his head.

Worst thing out of the presser: GM saying "If you like what you see, you are going to see more of it". Uhhh.... no Greg, I don't like what I see. That's the problem - your "system" with its 8 trillion sets doesn't work.
 

Peter

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I will be nothing short of enthusiastic. Now that the bar has been set so low by JP, it will be easy to exceed expectations. Heck, if things really go our way we could end up 10th or even 9th in the league! Possible NIT rummors? Maybe even another upset of a ranked opponent? Since nothing is expected, I am optimistic that next year will be a nothing + !