The Chizik hire WAS a great hire. Every pundit in America said so.
If you want to vent....
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JP is doing his job. Creating buzz and making business decisions. Every coaching hire was initially a hit. Cael would never have paid for his salary. It is what it is.
If we fire JP, we set ourselves back another 5 years while the new guy runs off or current coaches and brings in their guys.
USC could only hire Lynn Swan as their AD. Give me JP over Todd Blythe.
If we fire JP, we set ourselves back another 5 years while the new guy runs off or current coaches and brings in their guys.
USC could only hire Lynn Swan as their AD. Give me JP over Todd Blythe.
It definitely wasnt a bad one. Rhoads' success in his first couple years was built on what Chizik left for him. People hate on Chizik because he left before the results could be seen, but i really wonder how people wouldve viewed him if he'd left after the 09 season and a similar 7-6 record instead.
Plus the ticket sales change alone made the Chizik hire worth it to the AD. Thats where our season ticket sales started to take off, which ultimately is why things like the SEZ expansion were able to happen.
And most people on here talked about how he wasn't a good X's and O's coach. The exact opposite of what people were saying at the end (or even a year or two later).
Pundits are wrong. We were all wrong. Pollard was wrong. Auburn was wrong. Take away Cam Newton and Guz Malzahn and the guy was horrible. The reason he is no longer a head coach.
A hyped hire doesn't make it a good hire.
They will never be frauds. Quality people, well respected coaches, who will work as hard as anyone. Trying to work with players, most of whom, they wouldnot of recruited. Takes time. If not a solid, competitive 6-8 win team year 4, fire them and close down the program.
If Mac could have found and kept a good staff I have no doubt he would still be around, but there was a lot of underachieving in his 12 years.
I never expected Campbell to step in and make us world beaters in year one, but I assumed the offense would resemble a division 1 program. He has no offensive line, but this is as bad as I've seen in many years.
But... with a heavy sigh I say give it time. Even the great Ferentz stumbled a few years before making that powerhouse to the East
I never expected Campbell to step in and make us world beaters in year one, but I assumed the offense would resemble a division 1 program. He has no offensive line, but this is as bad as I've seen in many years.
But... with a heavy sigh I say give it time. Even the great Ferentz stumbled a few years before making that powerhouse to the East
JFC, Chizik was the single best assistant available in the nation when we hired him. Just because he busted doesn't make it a bad hire. The point is that every AD in Americax given JPs position would've made the same move. We can debate PR as a "bad hire", Chizik wasn't. Of course we all have the advantage of hindsight. JP didn't have that and I can't fault him for Chizik's disingenuousness.
The saddest part of this story is the way Dan pissed away the '04 and '05 seasons. Had we gone to the B12 championship in either of those seasons he'd probably still be around.
Had the pleasure of meeting Matt and some of his guys. Don't seem like frauds to me, but lots of folks pretty upset about a small sample of work here at ISU. I am a believer in The Plan (hell I'm just happy that we finally have a Plan). Seriously, I trust guys like Larry Kehres to be able to spot talent. I am excited to see improvement as the season goes on.
Anytime you hire a coach there is a good chance it wont work out. Most coaching hires are bad ones, when you look at it 5 years later. Those hires show up to be even worse for a program like ISU, when there never is a good foundation. The hires JP has made all have seemed like the right hires at the time. Up and coming coaches that others schools were looking at. JP did his homework on this hire, when we played at Toledo last year people though CMC could be are next coach. You cannot stop 35 years of being average at best overnight.
Me also, but after watching those lines....wholly ****! Did the lines play better relative to the competition level week two? Didn't get to see week 1.
Anymore? Was there really ever another reason? I've been attending games since the Walden era and have seen some pretty thin years. Tailgating and catching some rays is what it's all about.
On the bright side, when they are terrible the tickets are easily had.
I think ISU most famous wrestler turned coach went a little to the east and won multiple NCAA championships.
DG single-handedly kept us in some games. I went to the game @Missouri that year and it was... less than enjoyable.
I always have 'hope'. But in my 40th year of following ISU sports, especially Football, I'm never again going to go "All In" emotionally. Yes, I donate. The closest I came was after OSU win - then we proceeded to lose the rest of the year's games - to include the bowl game.
I had hopes of seeing improvement this year. Losing to UNI, who we beat last year just took the wind out of the sails for me for this season. Again, I hoped something might show against EIU. But nothing there to feel good about. Nothing.
So for the rest of this year, yeah I'll check the scores and go on with my life. And if improvements come I'll gain hope for next year.
Call it cynicism or old man syndrome, but it's really just 40 years of nut shots and a natural thickening of callouses on the sack.
I had hopes of seeing improvement this year. Losing to UNI, who we beat last year just took the wind out of the sails for me for this season. Again, I hoped something might show against EIU. But nothing there to feel good about. Nothing.
So for the rest of this year, yeah I'll check the scores and go on with my life. And if improvements come I'll gain hope for next year.
Call it cynicism or old man syndrome, but it's really just 40 years of nut shots and a natural thickening of callouses on the sack.
