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Since this ^ is such an unpopular comment, if I am wrong I will throw $100 to WeWill. If I am right, I challenge everyone who disagreed or dumbed it to donate $10
I disagreed with it because that outcome is more dependent on what teams around ISU on the curve do than a shorthanded ISU losing today as a 5 seed to a 4 seed in a game that was one possession nearly to the end.
 
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Which I think is a philosophical mistake. The whole point of seeding is to seed by "best" and if you are struggling down the stretch you are less "best".
I am of the opinion that seeds should be earned. If you earned a seed by how you performed and the level of competition you performed against then you should get the seed you earned even if you are dinged up or are going through a rough patch.

You earned it.
 

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I know NET isn't everything but, yeah. We're safely in as a 3

9 Q1 wins now is nice, too. That was 6 not too long ago but other teams got bumped up, finally.

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Don't look now but the UNO win just bumped up to a Q3. Winning the Summit league championship helps.

It is precarious though - movement by others could drop them one spot and that would be enough to drop that back to Q4.
 
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I think it less about how he is built and more about how he plays. A guy that seeks contact and hits the floor on nearly every drive is probably putting himself at risk more than a lot of other players.
Tamin just plays with reckless abandon. Just instinctively goes after the ball without regard to possible injury, and does seek a lot of contact too. Plus, he's so physical that defenders have to be physical with him or he'll eat them alive. He's really well put together, so the play style is undoubtedly what is causing him problems, but Tamin wouldn't be Tamin without that.
 
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Don't look now but the UNO win just bumped up to a Q3. Winning the Summit league championship helps.

It is precarious though - movement by others could drop them one spot and that would be enough to drop that back to Q4.
Need Kentucky and Wisconsin to bow out today
 
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ISU has a 9-8 record since mid February. ISU was a low 3 seed before losing to BYU. #4 seed would not be surprising at all considering how ISU was under-seeded last year. There is an old saying- don’t run to the finish line, run through the finish line.

ISU has limped, coughed and hopped on one foot to the finish line.

Really about the whole 2nd (conference) season.

I don't know (or really care since it still comes down to matchups and may be a wash if Gilbert and Lipsey are out and opponents prep for it) what the seed will be but fans ignoring the injury and sickness aspect is wild.
 

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ISU has a 9-8 record since mid February. ISU was a low 3 seed before losing to BYU. #4 seed would not be surprising at all considering how ISU was under-seeded last year. There is an old saying- don’t run to the finish line, run through the finish line.
You are saying they will weight the last 10-12 games heavier over the other games.



That logic no longer applied. But since Feb 8th they are 7-4.

So if we take away that reasoning of over weighting last batch of games why do you think they will be a 4 seed?

Last year Bracket Matrix for the highest 4 seed had an average seed of 3.52, 2023 3.24, 2022 3.67

ISU sits at 3.05.

And ISU was not under seeded last year. They were 1.92 and lowest 1 was 1.11

Guys who actually analyze this are really good at it
 
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For the we might drop to a 4 seed vs we are solidly one of the top 3 seeds argument, a lot of it depends if you are looking at/thinking about it like predictive metrics (usually built on offensive and defensive performance) vs results-based metrics (final score, location, and strength of opponent). Put another way, you can watch us play throughout the year and look at our offensive/defensive metrics and think we are clearly a top 12 team or you can look strictly at results/resumé and think its more fitting of a 4 seed.

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Need Kentucky and Wisconsin to bow out today
A&M losing yesterday was good

Though I am guessing a lot of the seed lines are already set. Given ISU Big 12 tourney run last year and destroying everyone did not move them off the 2 kind of tells you things are decided by Friday night
 
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You are saying they will weight the last 10-12 games heavier over the other games.



That logic no longer applied. But since Feb 8th they are 7-4.

So if we take away that reasoning of over weighting last batch of games why do you think they will be a 4 seed?

Last year Bracket Matrix for the highest 4 seed had an average seed of 3.52, 2023 3.24, 2022 3.67

ISU sits at 3.05.

And ISU was not under seeded last year. They were 1.92 and lowest 1 was 1.11

Guys who actually analyze this are really good at it
ISU was 27-7 last year. won the B12 and was the worst matched 2 seed. The were placed with Illinois and UConn.

This year they are 24-9. The ISU AP ranking was #12 before they just lost to BYU. AP might not be relevant though.

Bracketology says ISU is currently a 3 seed, but if Arizona (4 seed) wins keeps winning, maybe they could get a 3 seed and bump someone to a 4 seed.

ISU is 6-4 since February 8, not 7-3.
You are saying they will weight the last 10-12 games heavier over the other games.



That logic no longer applied. But since Feb 8th they are 7-4.

So if we take away that reasoning of over weighting last batch of games why do you think they will be a 4 seed?

Last year Bracket Matrix for the highest 4 seed had an average seed of 3.52, 2023 3.24, 2022 3.67

ISU sits at 3.05.

And ISU was not under seeded last year. They were 1.92 and lowest 1 was 1.11

Guys who actually analyze this are really good at it

You are saying they will weight the last 10-12 games heavier over the other games.



That logic no longer applied. But since Feb 8th they are 7-4.

So if we take away that reasoning of over weighting last batch of games why do you think they will be a 4 seed?

Last year Bracket Matrix for the highest 4 seed had an average seed of 3.52, 2023 3.24, 2022 3.67

ISU sits at 3.05.

And ISU was not under seeded last year. They were 1.92 and lowest 1 was 1.11

Guys who actually analyze this are really good at it
ISU was 27-7 last year going into the dance, ranked #4. They won the B12 and were arguably the worst matched 2 seed. They were placed with Illinois and UConn.

This year they are 24-9. The ISU AP ranking was #12 before they just lost to BYU. AP is not BPI though.

Bracketology says ISU is currently a 3 seed, but if Arizona (4 seed) keeps winning, maybe they would move up.

ISU is 6-4 since February 8.
 
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