Is McDermott's job security in danger

[CyGuy33]

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Well attendance is great right now, especially considering fans are talking about Hilton Magic being dead.

No matter how Wayne got the job, he was getting the job done better then Mac has in his first three years.

Lets face it, if you fire a coach after three seasons when he has gone to the NCAA Tournament and the NIT Final Four, you are laying pretty high expectations on the next coach.

For me those expecatations have not been met and the comparison between the two situtations will continue until those expectations are met.

 

[CYEATHAWK]

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So for taking a job no one else wanted and achieving a winning record with two post seasons births in three years...we penalize Morgan as soon as someone says they are interested? And then use attendance and direction as the reason? How is attendance and direction looking now? Oh yeah....we have Colvin, Dykstra and Gilstrap coming. And how much rope did players like Degand, Taggert, Stinnet, Westbrooke give Morgan? As for not using Morgan as the bar for GMac.......exactly what else do we have? Why did we hold Morgan to such high standards.....but now relax them with GMac? What happened to the house that Johnny, TF and LE built? That Wayne Morgan was fired for? If what Morgan did was good enough to get fired after three years, then what GMac has done thus far is more than enough to be on the hot seat!

 

[BigBake]

Well attendance is great right now, especially considering fans are talking about Hilton Magic being dead.

No matter how Wayne got the job, he was getting the job done better then Mac has in his first three years.

Lets face it, if you fire a coach after three seasons when he has gone to the NCAA Tournament and the NIT Final Four, you are laying pretty high expectations on the next coach.

For me those expecatations have not been met and the comparison between the two situtations will continue until those expectations are met.

Mac had only 4 less wins than Morgan did in his NCAA yr in his first year...with a skeleton of a team.
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[BigBake]

what more evidence than no school even giving Morgan a sniff in the job search do u need to know he wasn't a good coach????
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[BigBake]

I could maybe agree that LE could have been given more time....but then again look who was our AD.
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[CyGuy33]

So for taking a job no one else wanted and achieving a winning record with two post seasons births in three years...we penalize Morgan as soon as someone says they are interested? And then use attendance and direction as the reason? How is attendance and direction looking now? Oh yeah....we have Colvin, Dykstra and Gilstrap coming. And how much rope did players like Degand, Taggert, Stinnet, Westbrooke give Morgan? As for not using Morgan as the bar for GMac.......exactly what else do we have? Why did we hold Morgan to such high standards.....but now relax them with GMac? What happened to the house that Johnny, TF and LE built? That Wayne Morgan was fired for? If what Morgan did was good enough to get fired after three years, then what GMac has done thus far is more than enough to be on the hot seat!

Very Very Well Put. Now be prepared to be eaten by sharks wearing cardinal and gold colored glasses.

Everything that people say Mac is doing well, other then recruiting white kids from Iowa and Nebraska, Morgan did just as well if not better.

Morgan won basketball games. Had marquee wins @KU, @ Texas, @Florida State, Texas at home, Virginia @ home, Marquette to go the NIT Final Four, Big 12 Tournament Victories, agaist Minnesota in the NCAA Tournament.

What are GMac's big wins? Give me one game where you point to that and say, "Yep, that was a huge win for Mac. He beat a really good team."

Again
1-7 against the MVC
1-19 against teams that finished in the top half of the Big 12 (the one was against Missouri in his 1st Big 12 game ever)
0 Big 12 Tournament Wins
0-9 vs Ranked Opponents

If those numbers don't deserve some heat I don't know what does.

 

[keepngoal]

Very Very Well Put. Now be prepared to be eaten by sharks wearing cardinal and gold colored glasses.

Everything that people say Mac is doing well, other then recruiting white kids from Iowa and Nebraska, Morgan did just as well if not better.

Morgan won basketball games. Had marquee wins @KU, @ Texas, @Florida State, Texas at home, Virginia @ home, Marquette to go the NIT Final Four, Big 12 Tournament Victories, agaist Minnesota in the NCAA Tournament.

What are GMac's big wins? Give me one game where you point to that and say, "Yep, that was a huge win for Mac. He beat a really good team."

Again
1-7 against the MVC
1-19 against teams that finished in the top half of the Big 12 (the one was against Missouri in his 1st Big 12 game ever)
0 Big 12 Tournament Wins
0-9 vs Ranked Opponents

If those numbers don't deserve some heat I don't know what does.

Leader versus Bump on a Log ...

I'll take the leader... as did JP.

-keep.

 

[keepngoal]

what more evidence than no school even giving Morgan a sniff in the job search do u need to know he wasn't a good coach????
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Yep... there is a reason HE IS NOT COACHING.....

just climbing an actual ladder installing dishes....:yes::biglaugh::cute:

-keep.

 

[cybsball20]

Yep... there is a reason HE IS NOT COACHING.....

just climbing an actual ladder installing dishes....:yes::biglaugh::cute:

-keep.

He has no interest in coaching anymore, he's making plenty of money doing what he is now and spending more time with his family... Beleive me, he isn't climbing any ladders either, just cashing checks...

 

[ISU4ME]

Leader versus Bump on a Log ...

I'll take the leader... as did JP.

-keep.

Agree. Let's also not forget the scheduling scandal that was going on at the time that seems to have been lost (which is all for the better).

 

[CyGuy33]

Yep... there is a reason HE IS NOT COACHING.....

just climbing an actual ladder installing dishes....:yes::biglaugh::cute:

-keep.

He owns his own company.

Has his own store with employees.

Sets his own hours

Cashes checks

Sounds like a terrible job.

 

[Wesley]

This thread is embarrassing. The "firing" BS in college sports is out of control. Give me some freaking stability. Gmac is recruiting pretty well, lets see what he can do with some better players.

As far as firing BS in colleges, compare that to the bball pros who are up to six fired before XMAS. That is a 20% haircut.

Tims are changing.

Just look how many CEOs were bounced to the street in the last year. Most of the banking big names are now on hiatus.

 

[keepngoal]

He has no interest in coaching anymore, he's making plenty of money doing what he is now and spending more time with his family... Beleive me, he isn't climbing any ladders either, just cashing checks...

I have no interest in any other job too .... but then again, no one is calling either....

I guess WM and I have one thing in common... we aren't being recruited.

-keep.

 

[keepngoal]

He owns his own company.

Has his own store with employees.

Sets his own hours

Cashes checks

Sounds like a terrible job.

Not terrible.. just NO WHERE NEAR BASKETBALL.

that is my point.

-keep.

 

[cybsball20]

I have no interest in any other job too .... but then again, no one is calling either....

I guess WM have one thing in common... we aren't being recruited.

-keep.

He won, Mac isn't... Thats all I need to know...

Again, I'm not saying Mac needs to go, but piling on Wayne is just stupid... Mac has no excuses at this point for the team to be this bad...

 

[Wesley]

Very Very Well Put. Now be prepared to be eaten by sharks wearing cardinal and gold colored glasses.

Everything that people say Mac is doing well, other then recruiting white kids from Iowa and Nebraska, Morgan did just as well if not better.

Morgan won basketball games. Had marquee wins @KU, @ Texas, @Florida State, Texas at home, Virginia @ home, Marquette to go the NIT Final Four, Big 12 Tournament Victories, agaist Minnesota in the NCAA Tournament.

What are GMac's big wins? Give me one game where you point to that and say, "Yep, that was a huge win for Mac. He beat a really good team."

Again
1-7 against the MVC
1-19 against teams that finished in the top half of the Big 12 (the one was against Missouri in his 1st Big 12 game ever)
0 Big 12 Tournament Wins
0-9 vs Ranked Opponents

If those numbers don't deserve some heat I don't know what does.

You mean we beat someone from the MVC? Who was that school?

 

[ISUFan22]

Have not busted this out in a while...

 

[keepngoal]

He won, Mac isn't... Thats all I need to know...

true and that is the short story. Long term we are better off. Mac needs a break to go his way.

-keep.

 

[coachdags]

He has no interest in coaching anymore, he's making plenty of money doing what he is now and spending more time with his family... Beleive me, he isn't climbing any ladders either, just cashing checks...

hard time believing is pulling down 800g's selling Direct TV.....
especially since Joe "The Plumber" only was netting 250g's....:biglaugh:

 

[CyGuy33]

Agree. Let's also not forget the scheduling scandal that was going on at the time that seems to have been lost (which is all for the better).

Seriously? We all complain about how the NCAA has it out for Iowa State and we get sanctioned for everything we do and this just disappears?

It didn't just go away. The NCAA looked into it and every coach on the staff has a letter from the NCAA stating that nothing illegal occured.

You didn't see that because it was burried on page 6, unlike when Pollard leaked the story to some no-name reporter and it was front page news.