ISU Student and Champion Golfer Celia Barquin Arozamena Murdered at Coldwater Golf Course

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I don't have a daughter, but I can feel this. Is nowhere safe? Are we going to have to assign bodyguards to women to protect them from all of the ******* up men in this country whenever they want to do something as innocuous as effing golfing in the morning?

I just.. ugh. Not sure what else to say.

That's where I am too, but I do have a daughter and it makes me sick to my stomach. She runs cross country and does plenty of running by herself. We never let her run alone at night, but now you have to wonder about any time of day, any where. Mollie Tibbetts was bad enough. Now this?

My heart absolutely breaks for this young lady's family and her friends at ISU. She was an accomplished athlete, and an outstanding student. Exactly the type of person we need to be sending out into the world, and now that's all gone because of the actions of one sick sob. There's such a mix of anger and sadness that I can't even put it into words. It just doesn't seem like this should happen anywhere, but my God, broad daylight on a golf course in Ames?
 

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This is the second homeless homicide in the last few years in Ames. The last one wasn’t as popular because I believe it was a homeless man who murdered another homeless man.

I don’t know how to fix the problem. Build a shelter, it’ll bring more in. Move em out, you’re just pushing aside a societal issue.

The homeless encampment in Minneapolis on Hiawatha has grown to 300 something. No one has a good answer or solution. Lots of drug addiction folks and folks with mental issues. Answer is usually arrest the former and ignore the later which doesn't change anything. Two deaths there last month but they were in the camp and didn't get much notice until the 2nd one. Younger guy who had a family but addiction and mental issues. His mother is running for county commissioner and that raised the profile some. There is a big push now to clear the camp but not sure where the folks go.
 

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Tragic story and clearly one thing we can agree on is lack of mental health funding contributed by the state government. The defendant was clearly a misguided psychotic with severe mental deficiencies. He belonged locked in a psych ward and not left homeless near a bunch of college girls. His rap sheet clearly indicated he was a threat.

He had nowhere to go and was left to his own sick thoughts. Now as tax payers we will suffer to keep him locked away for a 60+ years and the world has lost such a beautiful and talented woman. Iowa also gains more international infamy due to another young woman being murdered in cold blood.

So tell me what’s worse this? Or increased mental health funding and DoC and DCI funding. Can’t have both a GOP state controlled government that is hell bent on corporate welfare and tax cuts for the wealthy and solid social services.

Also just look at state governement staff turnover at DHS. It is crazy. They can’t keep and recruit people willing to work there. Iowa has let people like Collin Richards and Christhian Riveria fall through the cracks and it cost Mollie and Celia their lives.
 
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Prosecutors find a lot of expediency in putting people on probation, because it's often really easy to get them into prison on violations, which don't require the burden of proof of a trial. You only have to show they violated the terms of probation, which doesn't require a jury finding they committed something beyond a reasonable doubt.

The problem is that you can run into judges who are really hesitant to imprison people who violate probation. My guess is that was the case here.
 
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I cant even begin to describe feeling from myself and everyone else on this and may she rest in peace. Dear lord if and when I have a daughter I'll probably never sleep :-(
 

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Horrible.

But the talk of making the homeless leave and blaming them is horrible too. Instead of just telling them to get out things need to be done to help them not be homeless.

It's amazing--people think of homeless basically like they think of livestock.

I'm reading a book called 'Tribe' right now and it discusses in depth about these kinds of things that make our society awful.
 

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Tragic story and clearly one thing we can agree on is lack of mental health funding contributed by the state government. The defendant was clearly a misguided psychotic with severe mental deficiencies. He belonged locked in a psych ward and not left homeless near a bunch of college girls. His rap sheet clearly indicated he was a threat.

He had nowhere to go and was left to his own sick thoughts. Now as tax payers we will suffer to keep him locked away for a 60+ years and the world has lost such a beautiful and talented woman. Iowa also gains more international infamy due to another young woman being murdered in cold blood.

So tell me what’s worse this? Or increased mental health funding. Can’t have both a GOP state controlled government that is hell bent on corporate welfare and tax cuts for the wealthy and solid social services.

Also just look at state governement staff turnover at DHS. It is crazy. They can’t keep and recruit people willing to work there. Iowa has let people like Collin Richards and Christhian Riveria fall through the cracks and it cost Mollie and Celia their lives.

I heard yesterday that fantasy football is a $70 billion industry.

We want that, not mental health services.
 

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Prosecutors find a lot of expediency in putting people on probation, because it's often really easy to get them into prison on violations, which don't require the burden of proof of a trial. You only have to show they violated the terms of probation, which doesn't require a jury finding they committed something beyond a reasonable doubt.

The problem is that you can run into judges who are really hesitant to imprison people who violate probation. My guess is that was the case here.

Not to get all politicy on this, but having worked in the criminal justice system for a bit it's amazing how much someone can get away with before they spend any meaningful time in prison. The reason for that is absolutely overcrowding, which is due in large part to mandatory minimums in drug cases. As long as you stay away from drugs or something particularly heinous, they'll just keep putting suspended sentences and probation over your head.
 
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The homeless encampment in Minneapolis on Hiawatha has grown to 300 something. No one has a good answer or solution. Lots of drug addiction folks and folks with mental issues. Answer is usually arrest the former and ignore the later which doesn't change anything. Two deaths there last month but they were in the camp and didn't get much notice until the 2nd one. Younger guy who had a family but addiction and mental issues. His mother is running for county commissioner and that raised the profile some. There is a big push now to clear the camp but not sure where the folks go.
I have a good answer. No warrants. Bulldoze it. When they move elsewhere, bulldoze it again. And again. And again. Until they leave.
 

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Not to get all politicy on this, but having worked in the criminal justice system for a bit it's amazing how much someone can get away with before they spend any meaningful time in prison. The reason for that is absolutely overcrowding, which is due in large part to mandatory minimums in drug cases. As long as you stay away from drugs or something particularly heinous, they'll just keep putting suspended sentences and probation over your head.
This and it pisses me off to no end. I know a couple people that have done prison time for a few relatively minor drug offenses but this guys was still walking the streets after 10 arrests.
 
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It looks like the Tee boxes for the 9th hole are right next to that wooded path. That sick SOB could have sat there waiting then snuck up behind her withing seconds while she was distracted.
 

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Is there any chance he could be exterdided to Spain?
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Any loss of young life is tragic, but such a promising young woman who came to America just to go to school and play the game she loves...my heart goes out to her family
 
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This is so tragic and horrible. I pray for that young woman who clearly had accomplished a lot already in her young life and touched so many people. How heartbreakeningly sad. So hard to believe this has happened in Ames, Iowa. I hope her family is ok. Just so shocking and awful.
 

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