3 games? try 15 years of the same... im still cheering, but its hard to get bodies to ames to sustain success... the defense is way to light in the loafers... coaches know this. Knott and Klein are outstanding. Outside that, we have people that play hard.
***ISU vs. KSU Postgame (Meltdown) Thread***
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3 games? try 15 years of the same... im still cheering, but its hard to get bodies to ames to sustain success... the defense is way to light in the loafers... coaches know this. Knott and Klein are outstanding. Outside that, we have people that play hard.
tiller isn't the answer. But neither is arnaud. neither is capello. and i don't know about barnett or richardson. they don't look that amazing. But heres to hoping.
AA is not a terrible QB... he basically single handedly kept ISU in this game. Its just frustrating to watch him pass the ball.
Isn't it great? looking forward to ISU's games each week and getting these results week after week
. I mean no disrespect but man this gets old. On the other hand I'm no less of a fan today then I was yesterday I still love the Clones just would like a celebration every now and then! End Rant.
. I mean no disrespect but man this gets old. On the other hand I'm no less of a fan today then I was yesterday I still love the Clones just would like a celebration every now and then! End Rant.
Didn't last season start this way? We don't have Baylor and may not get 8 turnovers against Nebraska this season but other than that we might be able to turn this boat around. What is shocking to me is that with a MAC team already under our belt we have only 5 offensive TDs on the year. We needed a strong O this year... looks like we don't have it again.
You are absolutely right about the offense. Teams do not routinely rip off 14 play - 80 yard drives, like our only TD today. There are way too many chances to screw up. This offense has no downfield ability and it's killing us.
For as bad as the defense was, and it got shoved around all day, they did give us a chance to win the game in the second half. They got the Pick Six game changing play, they held at 17-17, and were a blatant offensive pass interference call from holding at 20-17. They also held K-State to three after the obligatory Arnaud strip-sack fumble. For as many yards as they gave up they kept the score reasonable, much like last year.
This team was going to be led by our offense and our senior QB, who were going to outscore opponents to make up for a green defense. Too bad our senior QB is only reliable when he's running the ball. Missing Robinson on that pass at the end is inexcusable. Arnaud is a senior, it's his time to deliver and he failed.
Gotta agree with ya 32. I've never totally been on the AA bandwagon but I've always hoped for him to succeed. Way too many mistakes for an experienced QB
My thoughts-
We may not have a better option than Arnaud, but a senior simply has to make that throw to ARob.
Why is Money Reynolds on the sideline more than he is in the game?
I really like Reeves, on the other hand, LJ has not looked good. I wish we could move LJ to safety and plug Reeves in at that corner.
I know people say you can't blame the refs, but damn, that off PI honestly may have been a game changer.
Defensively, we're limited, but good things seemed to happen when we blitzed.
Linebacker play was pretty good I thought, including Morton.
That's as close as I get to a meltdown, sorry.
We may not have a better option than Arnaud, but a senior simply has to make that throw to ARob.
Why is Money Reynolds on the sideline more than he is in the game?
I really like Reeves, on the other hand, LJ has not looked good. I wish we could move LJ to safety and plug Reeves in at that corner.
I know people say you can't blame the refs, but damn, that off PI honestly may have been a game changer.
Defensively, we're limited, but good things seemed to happen when we blitzed.
Linebacker play was pretty good I thought, including Morton.
That's as close as I get to a meltdown, sorry.
basically every team that will make a bowl game will have at least one game like that? i dont see your point..
Isn't it great? looking forward to ISU's games each week and getting these results week after week
Every now and then, you didn't have any celebrating last year?
dualthreat...
Many of us have switched fan allegiances for various reasons, I was an Iowa fan before I became an ISU fan because I attended school there with Iowa offering neither major I was interested in.
However, you must realize this an incredibly pu$$y way to do it with a crybaby statement like that right? I mean you have to realize how pathetic your posts in this thread are. I'm sure any Iowa fans reading will think you're equally pathetic rather than welcome you aboard.
Many of us have switched fan allegiances for various reasons, I was an Iowa fan before I became an ISU fan because I attended school there with Iowa offering neither major I was interested in.
However, you must realize this an incredibly pu$$y way to do it with a crybaby statement like that right? I mean you have to realize how pathetic your posts in this thread are. I'm sure any Iowa fans reading will think you're equally pathetic rather than welcome you aboard.
lol
1. you are right
2. im not switching teams
3. i want iowa state to be like iowa, not pick iowa over iowa state. i meant i want to cheer for iowa (for the first time in my life).
tell me why i should cheer for iowa state opposed to iowa. Just straight up, as if i hadn't been an iowa state fan since i was 7. As if i didn't get on CF every day for the past 2 years. As if i didn't have season tickets. As if my dad and i haven't been going to games since i was 7.
Don't tell me being an iowa state fan is tough. Being a fan shouldn't be tough. It should be fun. Winning is fun. I love watching iowa state win. But why stay when there is better teams out there?
Cause being a fan means you are a fan no matter how the team is doing....I would rather be a losing Cyclone than a winning Hawk or anything else for that matter...
well i have been for 15 years. And clearly most cyclone fans share your feelings. "Cyclone fans" just don't care enough about winning for it to actually become a consistent reality.
Yes because the fans were the ones playing the games. We just didn't care enough about winning as fans, now I know why we lost all of those games in the 90's. Give me a break, ISU fans are the most loyal you will find but now you are questioning whether or not ISU fans want to in. Sounds like your conversion to a Hawk fan is well underway.
Run along now Hawk.
I am as mad as the next guy about the loss (just ask the wife) but I am now and will always be a Cyclone fan. Now for all the people in this thread telling you to leave and be a hawk fan, they are just being dumb. It is fine to be frustrated but its not fine to be b****ing at each other over this.
I missed the last part of the game. Maybe that is a good thing. I really felt like I was watching a Walden team - because the defense was so weak. The tackling was bad, the angles were bad, and coverage was bad. There was a DE that rushed upfield past the play about 6 times - just like Walden.
On offense, all we can do passing-wise is dink and dunk-no downfield passing. The defenses have a major advantage knowing we can't beat them long. The red zone penalties hurt us. I agree that Herman seems like GMAC - trying to run a complex system without the proper resources. The last thing I want to hear is give it time.
Our kicking game was good. Our coverages were ok. Did anyone notice that there was no blocking on the lead man on our punt returns? This may not be important, since we may not have another punt return this year.
Overall, I was extremely disappointed today. I was planning on buying tickets to a game this year, but no way am I going to drive 7 hours and spend hundreds of dollars watching crappy football.
What bothers me most is that we are getting worse, not better. Our recruiting hasn't been stellar this year. Defensively, we went all-in to stop the spread with short, quick, thin players - the problem is that more opposing teams are running smash mouth offenses and we don't have the ability to stop them with our lack of size. Offensively, we have to get 4 or 5 yards every play for 12 or more plays to get a touchdown. The probability of that happening is very low. One penalty, sack, missed block, or dropped pass and its time to bring on the punt unit.
On offense, all we can do passing-wise is dink and dunk-no downfield passing. The defenses have a major advantage knowing we can't beat them long. The red zone penalties hurt us. I agree that Herman seems like GMAC - trying to run a complex system without the proper resources. The last thing I want to hear is give it time.
Our kicking game was good. Our coverages were ok. Did anyone notice that there was no blocking on the lead man on our punt returns? This may not be important, since we may not have another punt return this year.
Overall, I was extremely disappointed today. I was planning on buying tickets to a game this year, but no way am I going to drive 7 hours and spend hundreds of dollars watching crappy football.
What bothers me most is that we are getting worse, not better. Our recruiting hasn't been stellar this year. Defensively, we went all-in to stop the spread with short, quick, thin players - the problem is that more opposing teams are running smash mouth offenses and we don't have the ability to stop them with our lack of size. Offensively, we have to get 4 or 5 yards every play for 12 or more plays to get a touchdown. The probability of that happening is very low. One penalty, sack, missed block, or dropped pass and its time to bring on the punt unit.
Just got back from a 5 hour drive from the game. We shouldn't have lost this one. I'm disappointed in the team. When does basketball season start again?
