It’s a wee bit sad…

[mred]

Putting this out there just because I was curious and made some quick calculations:

If you look at message count on this message board (5.2%); if you look at traffic on my bracket generator site (9.6%); if you look at tv ratings for the 2021 NBA playoffs vs WNBA playoffs (12.9%); if you look at ratings for the 2021 sweet 16 Women's vs Men's (7.1%) -- WBB engagement hovers around 10% of MBB engagement.

I was a little shocked at how high the WNBA number was, but it helps that the WNBA playoffs aren't as endless as the NBA playoffs.

 

[dafarmer]

Where to start ...

-- We staffed two writers at both Big 12 Tournament games and one at the NCAA Tournament. Two with the men. We only have three full-time employees.

-- It's important to point out that Connor, our newest full-time employee, is partly dedicated to women's basketball. I can assure you that financially, from a business standpoint only, we would be wise to use those resources elsewhere as much as I love it, women's basketball does not generate the interest that football and men's basketball do. It's just a fact. It's the same with wrestling.

-- We have had a writer dedicated to women's basketball since 2010, when I took over here. We have paid these writers and I promise you, have lost significant money in the process. We do it to support the women's program, that I love so very much and have worked my ass off to promote over the years.

-- Connor is going to Greensboro on Wednesday for the entirety of the next two rounds and hopefully will be in Minneapolis too. I'd like to see another free fan site in America sending writers half way across the country to cover women's basketball. (Again I believe it is important to do so we are doing it. BUT most publishers and business owners do not, and won't choke down the loss).

-- We have a bi-weekly podcast dedicated to the women, which of course touches on other things too. But the basis of the podcast when we created it was to give an extra boost towards women's sports at Iowa State.

-- A few other notes ... This past weekend, we did an NCAA Tournament preview show. Billy Fennelly joined us. On Sunday, we did a Round of 32 preview show. Jamie Steyer-Johnson joined us. On last night's show, an entire segment was dedicated to the women.

On top of that, here are links to every story we have done ONLY in the postseason.

CFTV: Bill Fennelly, Ashley Joens and Morgan Kane preview Big 12 Tournament

Iowa State coach Bill Fennelly and players Ashley Joens & Morgan Kane previewed the weekend's Big 12 Tournament after a practice on Thursday. The Cyclones (25-5, 14-4 Big 12) come in to the weekend as the No. 2 seed and will play the winner of No. 7 West Virginia and No. 10 TCU. https://y

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PHOTOS: Iowa State women practice in KC

The Iowa State women's basketball team practiced before it takes the court for the Big 12 Tournament this weekend at Municipal Auditorium. Emily Ryan gets ready for a pass at Big 12 Tournament practice. Photo by Connor FergusonAubrey Joens shoots a ball during Big 12 Tournament practice. Photo by

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WILLIAMS: Iowa State fans' support of women's basketball is special

Mar 11, 2022; Kansas City, MO, USA; Iowa State Cyclones guard Lexi Donarski (21) is introduced before facing the West Virginia Mountaineers at Municipal Auditorium. Mandatory Credit: Amy Kontras-USA TODAY Sports KANSAS CITY, Mo. — I’ve covered somewhere around 15 Big 12 Tournaments over the y

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WBB: Cyclones survive scoring droughts, advance to Big 12 semifinal

KANSAS CITY, Mo. --- Iowa State had a 21-point lead at one point Friday night in its 66-60 win over West Virginia at Municipal Auditorium in Kansas City. Despite multiple scoring droughts that lasted more than three minutes, the Cyclones managed to survive and advance. "They're talented," Iowa

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CFTV: Bill Fennelly, Joens & Donarski, address media following loss to UT

https://www.jcorpdesignbuild.com Iowa State coach Bill Fennelly and the pair of players in Ashley Joens and Lexi Donarski addressed the media following Saturday's game against Texas. https://youtu.be/wvSne6lDzYg

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STANZ: Freedom of movement is dead

Mar 12, 2022; Kansas City, MO, USA; Iowa State Cyclones head coach Bill Fennelly looks on in the first half against the Texas Longhorns at Municipal Auditorium. Mandatory Credit: Amy Kontras-USA TODAY Sports KANSAS CITY, Mo. --- Freedom of movement in college basketball is dead -- and has bee

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FERGUSON: Iowa State proved it Saturday that it can hang with the bullies

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Ashley Joens set a pick to allow a teammate to get open during Iowa State's 82-73 overtime loss to Texas in the Big 12 semifinal game. She was run over like a bowling pin sitting in the lane waiting to be knocked down to complete the spare. This wasn't an outlier in the game. It w

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WBB: Iowa State a No. 3 seed in NCAA Tournament, could face Iowa in Sweet 16

Iowa State women's basketball team will play its first round NCAA Tournament game on Friday, facing off with No. 14 UT Arlington in the first round. As the No. 3 seed in its bracket, Iowa State will host the first and second round games in the four-team pod it is in. If Iowa State can make it

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CFTV: Fennelly & Co. talk NCAA Tournament

Iowa State coach Bill Fennelly and players Ashley Joens and Morgan Kane spoke to media members on Sunday about its 2022 NCAA Tournament draw: https://youtu.be/I6C8o00aMig https://youtu.be/UdbmIkF1odg

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WBB: Scouting UT Arlington

Dec 2, 2021; Arlington, Texas, USA; UT Arlington Mavericks forward Starr Jacobs (4) shoots over South Florida Bulls forward Dulcy Fankam Mendjiadeu (32) during the second half at College Park Center. Mandatory Credit: Chris Jones-USA TODAY Sports After being announced as a No. 3 seed, Iowa St

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Title IX: Episode 68

Steph Copley and Alisa Woods dive into the women's basketball NCAA Tournament bracket and run back through everything that happened last week in Kansas City on a new episode of Title IX presented by the Ivy College of Business at Iowa State University.

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WBB: Ashley Joens named to AP All-American Second Team

The following is a press release from Iowa State Athletics Communications: AMES, Iowa – Ashley Joens continues to make history, earning Second Team All-America honors by the Associated Press, the organization announced on Wednesday. Joens becomes the fourth Cyclone to make an AP All-America team,

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WBB: Iowa State earns commitment from four-star wing out of Kansas

Iowa State added a fourth player to its 2023 recruiting class Wednesday night, with the news of four-star wing Addy Brown's commitment to the program. The Cyclones are preparing to face off with UT Arlington on Friday night in the first round of the NCAA Tournament in Ames, but remain diligent in

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CFTV: Fennelly, Joens and Ryan preview UT-Arlington

Iowa State head coach Bill Fennelly, plus stars Ashley Joens and Emily Ryan, preview the Cyclones' NCAA Tournament first-round tilt with UT-Arlington on Friday in this CFTV. https://youtu.be/WlfX4jCx8b8

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Iowa State's Big Three saved the Cyclones from madness

Iowa State Cyclones guard Emily Ryan (11) shoots as Texas-Arlington Mavericks guard Camryn Hawkins (23) attempts to block during the second quarter in the NCAA first-round game at Hilton Coliseum Thursday, March 17, 2022, in Ames, Iowa. AMES --- Iowa State trailed UT Arlington by eight points

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WBB: Cyclones survive UTA, advance to Sunday's Round of 32 matchup

For just over three quarters, it looked like March Madness may have caught up to the No. 3 seed Iowa State women's basketball team. Although it waivered early, trailing by eight after the first quarter, the Cyclones powered to a 78-71, NCAA Tournament win. Ashley Joens finished the game with a

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WBB: A quick turnaround, and onto Georgia

AMES --- Iowa State's first round game in the NCAA Tournament against UT Arlington ended at 11:03 p.m. Friday. Coach Bill Fennelly eventually got to bed at 3:30 a.m. after doing as much immediate prep for the second round game as he and his staff could. "I'm about six Red Bull's in right now,

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CFTV: Fennelly, Joens & Ryan prepare for Georgia

Iowa State coach Bill Fennelly and players Ashley Joens & Emily Ryan spoke to media members ahead of practice about preparing for Georgia, with a trip to the Sweet 16 on the line: https://youtu.be/vMw0Yb-11qo

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WATCH: Round of 32 preview show

Join us at 2 for a live pregame show for Iowa State / Wisconsin on the men's side and Iowa State / Georgia for the women's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XztoHuCSYb8

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WBB: Cyclones down Georgia, earn first Sweet 16 bid since 2010

For the first time in 12 years, the Iowa State women's basketball program is headed back to the Sweet 16. The Cyclones rolled No. 6 Georgia on Sunday night at Hilton Coliseum in a 67-44 win. Lexi Donarski led the team in scoring with 20 points on the night, and helped the Cyclones turn an earl

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WBB: The Hilton environment that helped Iowa State dance some more

AMES --- Sunday's game between No. 3 Iowa State and No. 6 Georgia got off to a lopsided start, seeing the Cyclones up 9-0 with four forced turnovers before their opponents could call timeout. The team punched its ticket into the Sweet 16 for the first time in 12 years with a 65-30 win, but what h

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CFTV: Fennelly, Ryan & Donarski secure Sweet 16 bid

Iowa State coach Bill Fennelly and Cyclone standouts Lexi Donarski & Emily Ryan addressed media members following their team's win over Georgia that punched its ticket to the Sweet 16: https://youtu.be/6P6fXfa4uIY

cyclonefanatic.com

Williams & Blum: Our sweetest podcast ever

Chris Williams and Brent Blum did their podcast live on Sunday night following the Iowa State men's and women's programs both advancing to the Sweet 16. Complete analysis on both games and what's to come.

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By my count, that is 23 pieces of content since the start of the Big 12 Touranment.

That doesn't count the one-on-one podcast that I did with Bill Fennelly before the start of the tournament. He also joined me on my KXnO show, where I talk about this team constantly.

It's just funny to me that I wake up today getting "thank you for your coverage" texts from the program and read this on our free message board.

Whatever though. You have a right to your opinion, and I do mine. I challenge you to find another fan site in America that covers women's basketball as much as we do.

CW, some people ***** no matter what.

 

[jctisu]

Hey judging by this thread and the amount of attention it has gotten this is your chance @acoustimac! Strike while the iron is hot and drum up some threads for us women’s basketball fans.

 

[Die4Cy]

I've been more into ISU women's ball this year than ever, and that is thanks to the content I read here at CF. I am aware of no other fan site like this that even makes the effort.

This will probably be seen as unfair: I'm a lifelong--but casual--Chicago sports fan, and when the Cubs and Blackhawks got good, many of the fans that were through the wringer with those teams over the years sort of resented the attention and fresh fan support that came with it. They understood better what it all really meant. They were true fans compared to those that had just come along lately. It's a thing. While one would think they would be the happiest that the team was beating expectations, they weren't. It may seem harsh or unfair but I wonder if that doesn't happen here with coverage of the women's game. Because what you get here is plainly better than elsewhere with respect to women's ball.

There are three teams with men and womens's teams advanced this far, ISU, UNC, and Michigan. Michigan's Rivals and 247 sites have no dedicated forum and no topics in the main basketball forum related to women's ball under discussion. Carolina's 247 page has a forum for women's ball that is pretty well trafficked, but only gets about 3% of the discussion that the two men's boards get. Here that's more than three times as much at 10%. And the UNC news section only had a brief wire report of their women making the Sweet Sixteen with no prior coverage of them in the NCAAs at all.

If the coverage you get here strikes you as inadequate, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[acoustimac]

Hey judging by this thread and the amount of attention it has gotten this is your chance @acoustimac! Strike while the iron is hot and drum up some threads for us women’s basketball fans.

Nah I’ve already got too many sensitive people up in arms…

 

[nfrine]

I only come over here for the women’s basketball forum. i can’t stand the stupid mega threads on other forums.

Surly? Is this an alt account?

 

[Big_Sill]

Putting this out there just because I was curious and made some quick calculations:

If you look at message count on this message board (5.2%); if you look at traffic on my bracket generator site (9.6%); if you look at tv ratings for the 2021 NBA playoffs vs WNBA playoffs (12.9%); if you look at ratings for the 2021 sweet 16 Women's vs Men's (7.1%) -- WBB engagement hovers around 10% of MBB engagement.

I was a little shocked at how high the WNBA number was, but it helps that the WNBA playoffs aren't as endless as the NBA playoffs.

Is timing a factor on the NBA / WNBA item? They would NOT be in direct competition I believe with the WNBA in the late summer / fall.

 

[IASTATE07]

Maybe posters changed their rating since it was brought up, but I was expecting a lot more "dumb" ratings than four.

 

[Cycsk]

Nah I’ve already got too many sensitive people up in arms…

Seriously, this is a great time for you to be participating in the WBB discussion. Don't worry about all the folks who over-react.

 

[DarkStar]

Where to start ...

-- We staffed two writers at both Big 12 Tournament games and one at the NCAA Tournament. Two with the men. We only have three full-time employees.

-- It's important to point out that Connor, our newest full-time employee, is partly dedicated to women's basketball. I can assure you that financially, from a business standpoint only, we would be wise to use those resources elsewhere as much as I love it, women's basketball does not generate the interest that football and men's basketball do. It's just a fact. It's the same with wrestling.

-- We have had a writer dedicated to women's basketball since 2010, when I took over here. We have paid these writers and I promise you, have lost significant money in the process. We do it to support the women's program, that I love so very much and have worked my ass off to promote over the years.

-- Connor is going to Greensboro on Wednesday for the entirety of the next two rounds and hopefully will be in Minneapolis too. I'd like to see another free fan site in America sending writers half way across the country to cover women's basketball. (Again I believe it is important to do so we are doing it. BUT most publishers and business owners do not, and won't choke down the loss).

-- We have a bi-weekly podcast dedicated to the women, which of course touches on other things too. But the basis of the podcast when we created it was to give an extra boost towards women's sports at Iowa State.

-- A few other notes ... This past weekend, we did an NCAA Tournament preview show. Billy Fennelly joined us. On Sunday, we did a Round of 32 preview show. Jamie Steyer-Johnson joined us. On last night's show, an entire segment was dedicated to the women.

On top of that, here are links to every story we have done ONLY in the postseason.

CFTV: Bill Fennelly, Ashley Joens and Morgan Kane preview Big 12 Tournament

Iowa State coach Bill Fennelly and players Ashley Joens & Morgan Kane previewed the weekend's Big 12 Tournament after a practice on Thursday. The Cyclones (25-5, 14-4 Big 12) come in to the weekend as the No. 2 seed and will play the winner of No. 7 West Virginia and No. 10 TCU. https://y

cyclonefanatic.com

PHOTOS: Iowa State women practice in KC

The Iowa State women's basketball team practiced before it takes the court for the Big 12 Tournament this weekend at Municipal Auditorium. Emily Ryan gets ready for a pass at Big 12 Tournament practice. Photo by Connor FergusonAubrey Joens shoots a ball during Big 12 Tournament practice. Photo by

cyclonefanatic.com

WILLIAMS: Iowa State fans' support of women's basketball is special

Mar 11, 2022; Kansas City, MO, USA; Iowa State Cyclones guard Lexi Donarski (21) is introduced before facing the West Virginia Mountaineers at Municipal Auditorium. Mandatory Credit: Amy Kontras-USA TODAY Sports KANSAS CITY, Mo. — I’ve covered somewhere around 15 Big 12 Tournaments over the y

cyclonefanatic.com

WBB: Cyclones survive scoring droughts, advance to Big 12 semifinal

KANSAS CITY, Mo. --- Iowa State had a 21-point lead at one point Friday night in its 66-60 win over West Virginia at Municipal Auditorium in Kansas City. Despite multiple scoring droughts that lasted more than three minutes, the Cyclones managed to survive and advance. "They're talented," Iowa

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CFTV: Bill Fennelly, Joens & Donarski, address media following loss to UT

https://www.jcorpdesignbuild.com Iowa State coach Bill Fennelly and the pair of players in Ashley Joens and Lexi Donarski addressed the media following Saturday's game against Texas. https://youtu.be/wvSne6lDzYg

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STANZ: Freedom of movement is dead

Mar 12, 2022; Kansas City, MO, USA; Iowa State Cyclones head coach Bill Fennelly looks on in the first half against the Texas Longhorns at Municipal Auditorium. Mandatory Credit: Amy Kontras-USA TODAY Sports KANSAS CITY, Mo. --- Freedom of movement in college basketball is dead -- and has bee

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FERGUSON: Iowa State proved it Saturday that it can hang with the bullies

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Ashley Joens set a pick to allow a teammate to get open during Iowa State's 82-73 overtime loss to Texas in the Big 12 semifinal game. She was run over like a bowling pin sitting in the lane waiting to be knocked down to complete the spare. This wasn't an outlier in the game. It w

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WBB: Iowa State a No. 3 seed in NCAA Tournament, could face Iowa in Sweet 16

Iowa State women's basketball team will play its first round NCAA Tournament game on Friday, facing off with No. 14 UT Arlington in the first round. As the No. 3 seed in its bracket, Iowa State will host the first and second round games in the four-team pod it is in. If Iowa State can make it

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CFTV: Fennelly & Co. talk NCAA Tournament

Iowa State coach Bill Fennelly and players Ashley Joens and Morgan Kane spoke to media members on Sunday about its 2022 NCAA Tournament draw: https://youtu.be/I6C8o00aMig https://youtu.be/UdbmIkF1odg

cyclonefanatic.com

WBB: Scouting UT Arlington

Dec 2, 2021; Arlington, Texas, USA; UT Arlington Mavericks forward Starr Jacobs (4) shoots over South Florida Bulls forward Dulcy Fankam Mendjiadeu (32) during the second half at College Park Center. Mandatory Credit: Chris Jones-USA TODAY Sports After being announced as a No. 3 seed, Iowa St

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Title IX: Episode 68

Steph Copley and Alisa Woods dive into the women's basketball NCAA Tournament bracket and run back through everything that happened last week in Kansas City on a new episode of Title IX presented by the Ivy College of Business at Iowa State University.

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WBB: Ashley Joens named to AP All-American Second Team

The following is a press release from Iowa State Athletics Communications: AMES, Iowa – Ashley Joens continues to make history, earning Second Team All-America honors by the Associated Press, the organization announced on Wednesday. Joens becomes the fourth Cyclone to make an AP All-America team,

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WBB: Iowa State earns commitment from four-star wing out of Kansas

Iowa State added a fourth player to its 2023 recruiting class Wednesday night, with the news of four-star wing Addy Brown's commitment to the program. The Cyclones are preparing to face off with UT Arlington on Friday night in the first round of the NCAA Tournament in Ames, but remain diligent in

cyclonefanatic.com

CFTV: Fennelly, Joens and Ryan preview UT-Arlington

Iowa State head coach Bill Fennelly, plus stars Ashley Joens and Emily Ryan, preview the Cyclones' NCAA Tournament first-round tilt with UT-Arlington on Friday in this CFTV. https://youtu.be/WlfX4jCx8b8

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Iowa State's Big Three saved the Cyclones from madness

Iowa State Cyclones guard Emily Ryan (11) shoots as Texas-Arlington Mavericks guard Camryn Hawkins (23) attempts to block during the second quarter in the NCAA first-round game at Hilton Coliseum Thursday, March 17, 2022, in Ames, Iowa. AMES --- Iowa State trailed UT Arlington by eight points

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WBB: Cyclones survive UTA, advance to Sunday's Round of 32 matchup

For just over three quarters, it looked like March Madness may have caught up to the No. 3 seed Iowa State women's basketball team. Although it waivered early, trailing by eight after the first quarter, the Cyclones powered to a 78-71, NCAA Tournament win. Ashley Joens finished the game with a

cyclonefanatic.com

WBB: A quick turnaround, and onto Georgia

AMES --- Iowa State's first round game in the NCAA Tournament against UT Arlington ended at 11:03 p.m. Friday. Coach Bill Fennelly eventually got to bed at 3:30 a.m. after doing as much immediate prep for the second round game as he and his staff could. "I'm about six Red Bull's in right now,

cyclonefanatic.com

CFTV: Fennelly, Joens & Ryan prepare for Georgia

Iowa State coach Bill Fennelly and players Ashley Joens & Emily Ryan spoke to media members ahead of practice about preparing for Georgia, with a trip to the Sweet 16 on the line: https://youtu.be/vMw0Yb-11qo

cyclonefanatic.com

WATCH: Round of 32 preview show

Join us at 2 for a live pregame show for Iowa State / Wisconsin on the men's side and Iowa State / Georgia for the women's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XztoHuCSYb8

cyclonefanatic.com

WBB: Cyclones down Georgia, earn first Sweet 16 bid since 2010

For the first time in 12 years, the Iowa State women's basketball program is headed back to the Sweet 16. The Cyclones rolled No. 6 Georgia on Sunday night at Hilton Coliseum in a 67-44 win. Lexi Donarski led the team in scoring with 20 points on the night, and helped the Cyclones turn an earl

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WBB: The Hilton environment that helped Iowa State dance some more

AMES --- Sunday's game between No. 3 Iowa State and No. 6 Georgia got off to a lopsided start, seeing the Cyclones up 9-0 with four forced turnovers before their opponents could call timeout. The team punched its ticket into the Sweet 16 for the first time in 12 years with a 65-30 win, but what h

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CFTV: Fennelly, Ryan & Donarski secure Sweet 16 bid

Iowa State coach Bill Fennelly and Cyclone standouts Lexi Donarski & Emily Ryan addressed media members following their team's win over Georgia that punched its ticket to the Sweet 16: https://youtu.be/6P6fXfa4uIY

cyclonefanatic.com

Williams & Blum: Our sweetest podcast ever

Chris Williams and Brent Blum did their podcast live on Sunday night following the Iowa State men's and women's programs both advancing to the Sweet 16. Complete analysis on both games and what's to come.

cyclonefanatic.com

By my count, that is 23 pieces of content since the start of the Big 12 Touranment.

That doesn't count the one-on-one podcast that I did with Bill Fennelly before the start of the tournament. He also joined me on my KXnO show, where I talk about this team constantly.

It's just funny to me that I wake up today getting "thank you for your coverage" texts from the program and read this on our free message board.

Whatever though. You have a right to your opinion, and I do mine. I challenge you to find another fan site in America that covers women's basketball as much as we do.

Hi, Steph Copley here. I co-host the Title IX pod on the CycloneFanatic feed every other week. If you've ever listened, you know I'm extremely sensitive to the disparity in treatment and coverage of women's sports. And you’re right, women’s basketball is generally under-covered as a sport, and it sucks. But everyone at CF, Chris especially, has made an effort to make sure that’s not the case with this Iowa State squad.

Chris was gracious enough more than two years ago to give Alisa and I platform to highlight women’s sports. We don’t take that lightly--we’ve devoted the majority of our time on the Title IX pod to coverage of the women’s team since the season began. Billy Fennelly joined us earlier in the season.

Connor Ferguson has been covering the women’s team all year. He live tweets the games and does game previews and game recaps—just like Chris and Jared do with the men’s team. I know Chris and Blum spend time talking about the women during every episode of their Sunday night podcast, too. And on Sunday, Jamie Steyer Johnson joined the CF team during the pregame show to discuss the women’s match-up against Georgia.

Is CF’s coverage of the women’s team 100% equal to that of the men? No, it isn’t. That’s the unfortunate reality of limited time and resources. But CF has gone out of its way to make sure these ladies are getting the attention and recognition they deserve.

So, as someone who appreciates your message and is also sensitive to inequities of men and women’s sports, I can honestly say I’m proud of the coverage CF has and will continue to give to this special squad. Go Cyclones.

CF goes well above and beyond the rest of the industry when it comes to dedicating resources and covering to women's sports.

Tittle IX podcast is one of the very few out there.

Buick has been running a campaign dedicated to raising awareness and interest in women's sports. It's a problem nation wide.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/03/buick-see-her-greatness-campaign-puts-spotlight-on-female-athletes-video/

It would be nice to get them to sponsor some of CF's work. Or at the very least shine a spotlight on the thriving support ISU gives to their women athletes. Because, as skimpy as it may seem at times, ISU is still one of the best in the nation.

 

[acoustimac]

Seriously, this is a great time for you to be participating in the WBB discussion. Don't worry about all the folks who over-react.

I could make some great points related to the original topic, but I don’t want banned from the site due to misunderstandings that have already appeared.

 

[ChrisMWilliams]

I could make some great points related to the original topic, but I don’t want banned from the site due to misunderstandings that have already appeared.

Nobody is going to ban you, man. You made a post. I responded to it with my thoughts and some insight on our coverage. We're all adults here.

 

[drmwevr08]

I'm still not sure what to think about these types of arguments. Is it fair that my baseball team stinks and spends no money while others spend (and win) more? No. But until MLB forces it, I'm sol. Is it fair that bowling and tennis aren't as popular as football and thus I get to see less? eh, either way I have to look harder to find those if I want. I think in the real world gender equity matters but sports and entertainment aren't real IMO. They are a consumer market driven solely by what people want. A girl should be able to play basketball at school, but I don't think Lisa Leslie deserved LeBron money just because she too was the best. To me its no longer gender equity but product popularity. I would say CF does better than I'd expect and better than the money would dictate. Kudos to them for trying.

 

[Junejax]

I appreciate being able to come to this site for WBB coverage. Serious thanks to Chris and all.

And I rarely post, but I genuinely appreciate those who do. Acoustimac, I’ve been reading your posts for years, through the best and worst of times.

Right now, I am a little obsessed with this Cyclone team. For this fan, at least, there is never enough. Go State.

 

[GoldCy]

All being adults is purely speculative. Being older than 30 usually bring criticism on this site.

 

[Cycsk]

I could make some great points related to the original topic, but I don’t want banned from the site due to misunderstandings that have already appeared.

Seems like an over-reaction. Apparently, this is a thread for over-reaction. Do you really think that CW's response puts you at risk of a ban? It seems to me that he just returned your volley with a slam. If there are misunderstandings that deserve clarification, address them. If they don't deserve clarification, ignore them.

There are plenty of us who welcome your contributions. Just put a few others on your "ignore list" and things will be much better. Or just post and functionally ignore them. Or not. It's your call.

 

[Cycsk]

Nobody is going to ban you, man. You made a post. I responded to it with my thoughts and some insight on our coverage. We're all adults here.

Speak for yourself. As I get older, I'm trying to avoid adultery.

 

[cyfanatic13]

I'm still not sure what to think about these types of arguments. Is it fair that my baseball team stinks and spends no money while others spend (and win) more? No. But until MLB forces it, I'm sol. Is it fair that bowling and tennis aren't as popular as football and thus I get to see less? eh, either way I have to look harder to find those if I want. I think in the real world gender equity matters but sports and entertainment aren't real IMO. They are a consumer market driven solely by what people want. A girl should be able to play basketball at school, but I don't think Lisa Leslie deserved LeBron money just because she too was the best. To me its no longer gender equity but product popularity. I would say CF does better than I'd expect and better than the money would dictate. Kudos to them for trying.

I think you captured my opinion on this perfectly and said it much better than I ever could

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

IMHO people are misunderstanding how attention is generated. It's both the product and the coverage. My take on Acoustimacs comments are that the product is there in a BIG way and deserves more coverage. More coverage would generate more attention. Chris commenting in a womens basketball thread generated more interactions than the women advancing to the sweet sixteen. It literally proves the point. People have said his mentions during William's and Blum has driven more interest.

Ashley has a legitimate argument to being the greatest to ever do it here, more articles focused on that will lead to more awareness leading to more attention leading to more articles (again, as Acoustimac said beyond CF, this is only a mild criticism of CF and more of a general frustration) and on and on it goes. Not the crowd, not asking the players if they noticed the men won (that interview was realllly bad). But the accomplishments of this team, Ash, the next matchup, whatever.

Caitlyn Clark is damn near a household name in Iowa. That didn't happen just because she scored 30 points a few times. It happened because those 30 point outings were covered by the media. It goes hand in hand, and some of the coverage of Iowa State Womens basketball does hold it back (that interview being a great example).

Caitlin Clark name in Iowa has a ton more to do with the fact that she was from the metro where the major media is located. Ashley has always drawn the short straw just because she is from the eastern side of the state.

 

[TrulyCyclone]

Caitlin Clark name in Iowa has a ton more to do with the fact that she was from the metro where the major media is located. Ashley has always drawn the short straw just because she is from the eastern side of the state.

I agree, media coverage matters. That coverage when paired with a special talent, story, or season can be really powerful.