I believe we missed Doc Sadler's defensive touch all year, that guy was a master and it showed at different times all year. Between Doc leaving and the loss of Ejim and Kane's leadership and mental toughness those where the biggest differences between this year and last years teams.
It's on Fred
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I agree hoiberg is a great coach, but I also agree he could have put our players in better positions to succeed in that game.
It seems like he stubbornly sticks by players, even when they're struggling that day: in the tournament game, there's no reason our last possessions should have been drawn up for naing (4 for 15) and the last possession 3 pointer for long (2 for 9, especially when thomas was 3 for 5).
It seems like he stubbornly sticks by players, even when they're struggling that day: in the tournament game, there's no reason our last possessions should have been drawn up for naing (4 for 15) and the last possession 3 pointer for long (2 for 9, especially when thomas was 3 for 5).
I can accept that definition.
I would really hate for Cyclones to start sounding like KU basketball or UI football fans. Entitlement is not our style - or at least it shouldn't be!
Never said just Play Edozie 40 minutes, a banger to stop the bleeding on the boards for 5 or 10. Never said Fred coddled them but he sure didn't doesn't get on them during games ever. Every once in awhile a leader has to show a little fire if he doesn't have players that can do it, which he didn't this year.
40 minutes... 10 minutes... 5 minutes. You don't think that if Fred REALLLY thought Edozie gave them a chance (any chance) to win he would play him?
I thought everyone seeing how lost he was when he started vs Oklahoma would have put this topic to bed... evidently some are still grasping at it.
It wasn't as successful as they wanted it to be but it was absolutely a successful season. Don't know why some are trying to make what constitutes success binary.
Grasping is putting it lightly. Every game we lost the "Whar Edozie" cry could be heard from NYC to LA. Just...I can't even anymore.
Is that adjusted for tempo? If it is, that is pretty glaringly bad. If not, who gives a damn.
At some level I am sure that Fred knows that a part of that loss was on him. Just did not have guys ready to play and I thought that he didn't make the best choices on who to play at times. He should have also pressed USB at least a few times to see if they could handle it. The players did not play well either, but Fred is the guy with the big paycheck, and he needs to do a better job in these situations.
The defense was fine and the team as a whole couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
What concerned me was how we were getting beat on glass on the defensive end throughout the game but I didn't notice anything being done to curb that. It was obvious that was what was keeping UAB in the game (and ultimately what gave them a shot to win at the end which they took advantage of). Was anything done in-game that I missed that was an attempt to fix the problem?
And for those who think we should just "move on", how can you call yourself a fanatic?
What concerned me was how we were getting beat on glass on the defensive end throughout the game but I didn't notice anything being done to curb that. It was obvious that was what was keeping UAB in the game (and ultimately what gave them a shot to win at the end which they took advantage of). Was anything done in-game that I missed that was an attempt to fix the problem?
And for those who think we should just "move on", how can you call yourself a fanatic?
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I'll agree we didn't have a 25 year old senior with the mental toughness of Kane or a 4 year senior starter like Mel, that made last year's team special. BDJ was no Kane and I doubt there's a coach in the country who could make him one. But this team outdid some of last years' accomplishments and they should get credit for that. And we didn't lose to UAB because we gave up a bunch of points, we lost because we missed a lot of good shots and scored waaay below our season average. We put up a lot more points in our last two games against OU, who is known as a good defensive team. I do think we were probably a little overconfident after the KU win in KC, I know I was as a fan, but the bottom line is we had a lot of good shots that just wouldn't drop. It can happen.
Our rebounding (as it was all year) was less than stellar, however as others have mentioned, I fail to blame our guys for at least half of those offensive rebounds. UAB throwing up clankers and having them bounce right into their guys' waiting arms does not get put into the category of getting outrebounded imo.
True. I remember seeing a really poor shot by UAB that hit the back end of the rim (from a baseline shot) and it looked like our guys had good position but the wonky rebound went straight to a UAB player. UAB's offense was really poor. Their last two made shots at the end of the game were as improbable as Naz's wide open misses.
I think Daniel Edozie is a great guy and a great teammate. However, playing him, even for 5 minutes, would not have been the answer. Anyone who thinks this is just plain wrong.
Also, yes the loss is on Fred... and the entire team. So are the last 5 years, aka the golden age of ISU basketball. Win as a team, lose as a team.
Also, yes the loss is on Fred... and the entire team. So are the last 5 years, aka the golden age of ISU basketball. Win as a team, lose as a team.
