Agreed. Layman wasn't checking his mouth for missing teeth like mam man after the wild elbow. All in all not a big deal and onto the next one. Just ****** I have to wait until Dec 2nd to watch hoiball.
Jones Flagrant Foul
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Agreed. Layman wasn't checking his mouth for missing teeth like mam man after the wild elbow. All in all not a big deal and onto the next one. Just ****** I have to wait until Dec 2nd to watch hoiball.
It looked to me like he thought Layman was going to go up, and if he hadn't bumped him he would have flown by. It didn't hurt Layman, and he just sort of gave a look like, "Are you serious?"
It was just a really bad night for this team. Even Monte looked out of sorts, but this is why you play tough early season games. Credit Maryland.
It was just a really bad night for this team. Even Monte looked out of sorts, but this is why you play tough early season games. Credit Maryland.
You guys can downplay it all you want, but it was a ridiculously stupid play at a critical point in the game. Is there a single reason to not go for the ball (even if you do it hard to make sure he doesn't make it) in that situation?
Came off as a 'crybaby, we already lost so might as well give up' move to me.
Came off as a 'crybaby, we already lost so might as well give up' move to me.
hey Skidoosh...don't put words in my mouth. I didn't imply he shouldn't be on the team or that he was a bad man. I don't believe his actions were representative of ISU players though and I certainly believe it was a classless foul...that DID have an impact due to when it took place. We may not agree...but let's not compare it to a completely different situation.
I think it came off as "This guy has been a huge doosher all night screaming and pounding his chest after made free throws and now he's cherry picking so I'm not even going to give him any sliver of an opportunity of dunking the ball or getting an And 1."
Basketball players know what I'm talking about.
So to prove a point to Layman you intentionally foul him when we are down by 6 with 100 seconds to go and your squad has cut the lead from 15 to 6 in the last two minutes. I played high school basketball and I don't know what you are talking about.
To be fair, I don't know a damn thing about his background...so I can honestly say I'd have felt the same way regardless. Maybe I have an unfair expectation on the way our kids should conduct themselves based on who our coach is and what I feel he did/did not do as a player.
I watched Kane progress as a player and as an individual last year because, I believe, of the mentoring that Fred provided...and I expect much the same if BDJ has similar personality traits.
LOL, that's the second time in 10 minutes you've alluded to yourself as a player. "You can't understand these things until you've walked in the shoes of guys like me."
I'm not saying I agree with it. I'm just telling you the thought process. Layman was under everyone's skin.
Ejim flipped the crowd off once.
Hogue poked somebody in the eye and tried to drop kick a guy from WVU.
Just saying--we still like him.
Rogue program.
Hogue poked somebody in the eye and tried to drop kick a guy from WVU.
Just saying--we still like him.
Rogue program.
y'all remember this? http://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=179576&highlight=deandre+kane
We freaked out about that too.
We freaked out about that too.
Idk how anyone can sugar coat what BDJ did, he made an immature, irresponsible play. The look on his face was that of a frustrated little kid who doesn't know what to do other than push someone. Really hope it was a one time thing, it had nothing to do with the other guy, he didn't even notice it was that guy. It was all about BDJ not handling his emotions. I'd hope every Cyclone fan wants to see our guys want to play clean, the funny thing is, the flagrant Olesani got for Iowa against Texas was no where near as this play and we had ISU fans calling him dirty.
I'm confident that Fred has addressed this with Bryce and he'll learn from it and move on.
This is my reaction to this thread. It makes you wonder where Gossamer has been since Fred has been coach. I think Fred likes to see fire in his players, and then he tries his best to get them to keep it under control. Ejim last year didn't want to take crap from anybody.Ejim flipped the crowd off once.
Hogue poked somebody in the eye and tried to drop kick a guy from WVU.
Rogue program.
Those were BIG BIG refs, reffing BIG BIG brute basketball. We have to get used to it because we are going to see it everywhere. However, the team needs to learn to be the aggressors at times. They will. I like everyone's attitudes because they are human and still learning.
Well gosh Mittens, allow me to help your wonderment, I've been in pretty much the same place as before Fred was coach...right here. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
Lol...being the aggressor isn't deliberately hip checking or shoulder bumping a guy who is going to dunk the ball.
You are right, Fred likes to see fire...but I don't believe that fire and this foul are the same thing. I've never implied that they aren't learning...I simply thought the foul was BS. That's it. You think Fred thought it was ok?
That is salt in the still open cut and you should be ashamed - but I did look to see if there was a Burnham on our bench last night causing our turnstile defense.
