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jsb

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You hate MJ too?

to be fair, the sexual assault comment was a smart *** comment. I'm sure there are sports figures I like that are not good people (for example, I still kind of like Adrain Peterson.) I just don't like Kobe. It's the Iowa state fan in me.
 

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yes. i hate the Bulls. I hate the Lakers. I hate Jordan and I hate Kobe.

Obviously both are are two of the best to play the game but I don't give a crap that Kobe is done.

Fair enough. I like that you are at least consistent!
 

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I want to say the only time that has happened was one of the Rockets championship teams. Hakeem was the only all star on the team. Could be wrong though.

Good call. Clyde was a HOF on that second team but he was well past his prime at that point.
 

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I haven't followed NBA since early high school, and Kobe had been in the league for several years at that point :shocked:

I don't like him as a person, but he's a helluva player
 

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Good call. Clyde was a HOF on that second team but he was well past his prime at that point.

And their first win didn't even have Clyde. It was basically Hakeem and some role players.
 

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Love this argument. I haven't found anyone that's won multiple titles without having HOF/All star caliber players around them.

I would say Olajuwon is the closest to doing it.

Edit
A couple people beat me to it.
 

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And their first win didn't even have Clyde. It was basically Hakeem and some role players.

That team was ridiculous. You could not stop Hakeem. I'd say that for those two years, I have never seen a more unstoppable player than Hakeem. And if you left one of the other four players, Hakeem WOULD find the open man, and that man would drain the three. It was just filthy.
 

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And their first win didn't even have Clyde. It was basically Hakeem and some role players.

That's what I said in a not very clear way.

Hakeem is my 2nd favorite player to watch in my lifetime. Unreal footwork.
 

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My favorite Kobe moment is when Paul Pierce blocked him on a jump shot late in I believe the series-clenching game of the finals. I'm not sure if I've been more pumped about the NBA than that moment.
 

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And by without Shaq, you mean with three all-star caliber bigs and one of the best defenders in the game instead.

I mean there were A LOT of people who didn't think Kobe could win a title without Shaq. I didn't say he did it without any talent around him. He definitely carried those teams though.
 

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Honestly won't even notice. Kobe has been irrelevant like the Lakers for a few years now. Half the time I forget he is still playing.
 

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When he told investigators in his sexual assault case that Shaq did the same thing but paid his women to keep quiet.

Or when he went 6-24 from the field in Game 7 in the NBA Finals against the Celtics.

All time great player, all time terrible teammate.
 

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Honestly won't even notice. Kobe has been irrelevant like the Lakers for a few years now. Half the time I forget he is still playing.

He's been instrumental in helping the Lakers most likely keep their top three protected pick this year!
 

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Can't believe no one has mentioned his 81 point game yet! For all of you who "haven't paid attention in a long time" I'll just leave this here....

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