Kyle Boyd switches to Baylor

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mt85

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Maybe during prayer, God put it on his heart for him to go to Baylor. Maybe his family got excited when he got the offer from a program close to home and pumped it up and the kid processed that into his decision. You never know. You are talking about 17-18 yr old kids. It is not a lack of integrity. These are life decisions these kids are making. You know programs put the hammer on these kids to commit to their school and make them feel the offer is only good if they commit then and there on the spot. "Commit now or this offer might not be there later." It is a lot of pressure and I can assure you most people on this board didn't stick to every commitment they had at 17-18; and, likely didn't have the same pressures placed on them like the game of recruiting. It is not like the kids is breaking one of God's commandments. Get real folks. I know it is frustrating and dissapointing; but, don't lock your bets or feelings on these kids until they sign the dotted line. Bring back early signing period if you want to stop the decommitments.

There is a pretty simple solution if you want to keep your options open. You should wait to commit.

His commitment caused ISU to hold a scholarship for him, and thus it carried a significant value. As we both know, it was a verbal agreement and per the NCAA was not binding. Therefore, Kyle was free to change his commitment, and he exercised that right. He is not a victim in this scenario, so you can spare me the violin.

Kyle acted in his own best interest, but in so doing, he did break his word at a cost to the school that held a scholarship for him for the last six months. To pretend that there should be no consequence to his honor and integrity is intellectually dishonest.

ISU could have pulled Kyle's scholarship offer the night before signing day because a better recruit wanted to commit to ISU. Lets assume that recruit was higher rated and that they were really excited about him. If I then told you that the ISU coaches prayed about it and that God put in their heart that this was a better player and he was the right choice for their program, would you defend their honor and integrity?

What kind of precedent do we teach our children when we tell them that their word does not matter?
 
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CyValley

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mt85, outstanding response, not only for its logic (imho), but for its clarity and conciseness. The young man's honor is tarnished here, justifiably, many of us no doubt believe.
 

weR138

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He just said that he couldn't give a **** if an opponent or official got injured. Stay classy CYphyllis!

True, but in the context of invoking God. Shouldn't we all be helping the poor rather than playing in, attending, or officiating a football game? I think the point is to leave God out of football.
 

VeloClone

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Huh? I think he meant in the sense that injuries happen while playing football and cannot be avoided?

If he did, he did a poor job of expressing it. I said "serious injury" and followed it up with "life or quality of life" just to make sure he was clear that I was talking about injuries that could kill or impact the rest of the person's life and he still says he doesn't give a ****.

Seriously lame.
 

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Kyle had the opportunity to spend his next 4 or 5 years playing for Coach Rhoads, and Coach Burnham. It is Kyle's loss that he chose not to.
 

Cyforce

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He does open doors in His time and not ours. God has sent people to much worse places. Like Ames is a destination city? Who knew. No blame to be cast upon anyone in this matter.

Using God as an excuse to back out of a comittment is slimey.
It's been my expirience that the individuals that will screw you the most
remarkably consider themselves religous and moral.
 

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Wow!! 9 pages of back and forth about the meaning of the word 'commitment.' I have two solutions, well, one that would really solve the problem, one just in case the real problem solver is disallowed. The Real Solution: Have coaches carry letters of intent with them on recruiting trips. If the recruit is ready to 'commit,' have the little begger sign on the bottom line, deal done. Think of the elimination of stress and drama on all the parties involved.

O.K., I'm sure there's problems with that so here's the second solution: ban the word/term/connotation 'commitment.' Just say the kid is interested or something like that. Nothing expected until signing day. We could go to the Gridiron Club signing day party ready to drink to all those 4 stars who said "maybe!!" And then really drink when we found out they went to LSU and USC.

BTW, I'm one of those people who have a twinge of regret when we 'steal' a player from another program. I think the horse heaved a bit, so it's not quite dead, and I too believe that 'commitment' should mean 'committed.'
 
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dualthreat

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Using God as an excuse to back out of a comittment is slimey.
It's been my expirience that the individuals that will screw you the most
remarkably consider themselves religous and moral.

i guess i can't say i've had similar experiences, but idk how or why ppl get off by saying they're "really religious"

just what exactly does that mean? god likes them better? lol

"worthy are those who are weak in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven"
 

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Any god that tells a kid to go spend 4-5 years in waco, tx is not a very loving god.
In front of 20,000 fans! Good luck to him, but he would get way more recognition in Ames than he will in Waco.
 

Cyforce

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i guess i can't say i've had similar experiences, but idk how or why ppl get off by saying they're "really religious"

just what exactly does that mean? god likes them better? lol

"worthy are those who are weak in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven"

not seeing where I used the term really religious.
 

CloneIce

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Recruits change their mind all the time. The poster that ripped his christianity because of this is way out of place.

Now stop with the bible beating stuff.

Nobody ripped Christianity in this thread.
 

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Bigguns

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I have no problem with a kid decommitting. I have a problem with him doing it 2 weeks before signing day, when you cannot fill his spot.
What if ISU gets a kid to decommitt from some other school to come to ISU? I suppose that wouldn't be ok. It is the nature of the beast. Created not just by the 17-18 year old kids but also by the parents and the Coaches. Even the beloved Paul Rhoads does it. I just hope it all balances out in the end and we get the most talented kids who want to be here.
 

CyDude16

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He does open doors in His time and not ours. God has sent people to much worse places. Like Ames is a destination city? Who knew. No blame to be cast upon anyone in this matter.

I cant tell if you are truly serious with all this god stuff.. Oh and Ames > Waco any day of the week. The kid backed out of a committment, dont use religious excuse, thats a cop out. And it is a truly pathetic one.
 
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