Kyle Boyd switches to Baylor

[acgclone]

Did the company in Canada halt their job search while other well-qualified applicants that they could have offered the position to found positions elsewhere during the 6+ month timeframe before I was to sign the contract?

A company would either have you sign the contract, even if it's 6 months before you start work, OR they would keep looking.

That's the point. Verbals aren't 100% binding contracts. Also, this is a sport where the HC can up and leave the players high and dry at the drop of a hat.

Like I said earlier, if this was a case of an Iowa kid, who committed to say Washington State because he was led to believe that ISU wasn't going to offer. Then Paul calls him 2 weeks before signing day and says "Son, we've been looking at your senior tape and you're just too good to pass up". When he reneges and commits to ISU, NO ONE on this board would be questioning his integrity.

 

[mt85]

So, if you guys have accepted a job offer from a company 800 miles away, in the middle of Canada, then just before you sign a contract, you get an offer an hour and a half away from ISU, where you can catch every game--for the same or slightly better money--is it a "lack of integrity" to take the second offer?

I love the folks that live in the fairy tale world that there should be no consequences for their choices.

Boo hoo he gets called out for his lack of integrity. That is the price ones pays for breaking a commitment. He'll move on, and so will ISU.

 

[brett108]

Probably, and we didn't. We signed two more LBers and were talking to others.

Does it only take 2 LB to play defense. IMO you need to try and recruit all your positions. The loss hurts us. We are going to have scholarships left over again this year or end up getting a late filler. Just to put this in perspective, Hamlin was a late filler one year. How well did that work out?

 

[Tre4ISU]

Does it only take 2 LB to play defense. IMO you need to try and recruit all your positions. The loss hurts us. We are going to have scholarships left over again this year or end up getting a late filler. Just to put this in perspective, Hamlin was a late filler one year. How well did that work out?

No, that's why I didn't say that. He asked about the other scenerio and I was simply saying we didn't stop looking for guys when he committed.

This one does hurt because he is a MLB and he could be the only one in the last two classes. Having said that, I don't get all that hung up on MLB or OLB.

 

[brett108]

No, that's why I didn't say that. He asked about the other scenerio and I was simply saying we didn't stop looking for guys when he committed.

This one does hurt because he is a MLB and he could be the only one in the last two classes. Having said that, I don't get all that hung up on MLB or OLB.

Honestly, I think Lb is the spot Daniels is destined to play. MLB is the easiest to fill with a JUCO, so it hurts us the least, but I would still want to use up all these scholarships some year.

I am also nervous this is not the end of the raiding. The other guy that scare me is Brackens, who was always considered a soft verbal. If A/M comes sniffing around we could be hurting even more.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Honestly, I think Lb is the spot Daniels is destined to play. MLB is the easiest to fill with a JUCO, so it hurts us the least, but I would still want to use up all these scholarships some year.

I am also nervous this is not the end of the raiding. The other guy that scare me is Brackens, who was always considered a soft verbal. If A/M comes sniffing around we could be hurting even more.

Brackens would be far worse than Boyd, IMO.

I don't think Daniels is a LBer. Either DE or TE. My hope is still that Lemke moves to DE and Daniels to TE.

 

[Blandboy]

On a side note... i go to baylorfans to see what they might be saying about this.. and theyre talking about a possible new stadium?

Yep. Apparently some group called the Branch-Davidians burned down an old building to clear the way for the Bears' new digs. Call'n it the Koresh Krib, or something similar ...

 

[Bigguns]

Should open a schollie up for Nate Cruise of Ames High!

 

[KMAC_ATTACK]

Knocking this kid's character probably says more about our posters than it does about him. You have to keep in mind that kids from out of state, are usually fans of one or more schools first and foremost ahead of ISU.

If it were an Iowa player, who had committed to Baylor because it didn't look like he was going to get an ISU offer, and then the kid gets a last minute call from CPR and he switched his commitment, we wouldn't be knocking his character.

THANK YOU.....100% agree....

Guys - no need in hatin on the kid....this says absolutely zero about his character - this is 100% about how the NCAA has established the recruiting world these kids live in....

Its brutal world - you have a bunch of used car salesman (no offense) promising everything and as soon as that name goes on the line, they change their demeanor...i mean seriously guys this is what makes recruiting such a nasty world....

Enough about him, we act as though this kid is a top150 commit....big deal we move to fill his spot....

Here's my name: Kyle Swartz....Super Athlete, shown as 6'-1" and 218 but a comment on his profile says he's closer to 6'-3" and 230....Imagine a year of redshirt that will easily be a toned 230 or so......this kids fast, big, strong...i love his evaluations....Big, Physical, HITTER....likes to fill the gaps.....(ala Jesse Smith to me)

Kyle Swartz 2011 Football Recruiting Profile - ESPN

Sunflower League Football: 2010 Player Spotlights: Kyle Swartz

Anyway - time to move onto someone that may WANT to be a cyclone and forget those that dont!!!!

 

[VTXCyRyD]

Happened after he just took a an official visit to Ames too. He must of gotten bad service at Hickory Park.

Not bad service, but he probably couldn't hear anything that was said to him.

 

[CYKOFAN]

Another lb prospect might be Rob Myers of Ankeny. Hope we at least get him to walk on.

 

[ItsCyence]

Another lb prospect might be Rob Myers of Ankeny. Hope we at least get him to walk on.

Depends if he wants to wrestle or play football.

 

[ljhlax]

THANK YOU.....100% agree....

Guys - no need in hatin on the kid....this says absolutely zero about his character - this is 100% about how the NCAA has established the recruiting world these kids live in....

Its brutal world - you have a bunch of used car salesman (no offense) promising everything and as soon as that name goes on the line, they change their demeanor...i mean seriously guys this is what makes recruiting such a nasty world....

Enough about him, we act as though this kid is a top150 commit....big deal we move to fill his spot....

Here's my name: Kyle Swartz....Super Athlete, shown as 6'-1" and 218 but a comment on his profile says he's closer to 6'-3" and 230....Imagine a year of redshirt that will easily be a toned 230 or so......this kids fast, big, strong...i love his evaluations....Big, Physical, HITTER....likes to fill the gaps.....(ala Jesse Smith to me)

Kyle Swartz 2011 Football Recruiting Profile - ESPN

Sunflower League Football: 2010 Player Spotlights: Kyle Swartz

Anyway - time to move onto someone that may WANT to be a cyclone and forget those that dont!!!!

Thanks for the post about Kyle. I saw him as a Junior when I was living in Johnson County and he is for real. I'd love to see him as a Cyclone. Has the maturity, leadership, and athleticism to really stand out on the collegiate level. The Olathe schools are also leaps ahead of what they were 10 years ago. I know he is hoping for the FBS offer which doesn't bode well on paper, but he IS a FBS LB.

Here is my theory on him. Recruiters were so awestruck with the DBs for North that they focused on them. Someone said "hey that LB can really get after the run, but can he drop back in coverage...hmmmm...doesn't seem to do that much, I guess the coaches don't trust him much. I guess he is okay even though he had 10 tackles 2 for a loss and 2 QB hurries, maybe we'll grade him FCS quality or low FBS quality. Seriously, those DBs are Fast, that is who the stars of this team are."

Now here is the reality, Kyle was the leader of that defense. He plays in a conference known for producing beasts on the OL for KU, KSU and Mizzou, and he consistently shot the gaps and got to the QBs or RBs in the backfield. The DBs Simmons and the other one, sorry forgot his name were made SOO much better by Swartz. Olathe North could shut down the run because of Kyle and his leadership, and thus the DBs often times had easy pickings when their mostly run happy opponents tried to pass. Add his pressures to the QB and it made it even easier for him. His draw backs are he comes from the perennial best team in the KC Kansas(joco) side of town the last ten years, so you're not sure if his results are completely his system or him as an individual, but that is also a plus because he has been well coached and is thus a coachable guy.

Personally, I heard lots of talk about him as a person and EVERYTHING I heard about him was good. That was coming from a dad (and Scout leader) of a golfer on the North Team and a Sergeant that was working the game I went to. If we have to have a late pick up and take a chance on someone, he's one of the guys I'd love to see at ISU. That is if Curt Maggitt decides not to pull the last minute switch to play with his brother magic I've been praying for.

 

[Cykobabble]

Sadly, we're in the annual 'poaching' period of football recruiting when other teams come in on our verbal commits. This happens every year that we lose 2-3 of our top recruits. These are the recruits that will make a difference for our program. Kyle Boyd is the real deal. He has the size, strength and speed to upgrade our roster. Let's hope we can minimize these losses.:swoon:

 

[clonestar12]

LB Kyle Boyd who committed to us back in June switched to Baylor tonight.

Kyle Boyd - Yahoo! Sports

The kid is going to be playing and going to school 11/2 hours from home. I see no issue with a young man that wants to stay closer to home.

 

[brett108]

The kid is going to be playing and going to school 11/2 hours from home. I see no issue with a young man that wants to stay closer to home.

I have no problem with a kid decommitting. I have a problem with him doing it 2 weeks before signing day, when you cannot fill his spot.

 

[bosco]

The kid is going to be playing and going to school 11/2 hours from home. I see no issue with a young man that wants to stay closer to home.

I'm not knocking the kid but this is how it seems to me.

Baylor is the girl next door. This kid has been begging this girl to go out to the big dance but she snubbs him in hopes that the captain of the football team asks her out. So in the mean time another girl (ISU) who is the farm girl that lives outside of town sees his potential and asks him out months and months in advance.

The girl next door gets spurned by the captain of the football team and doesn't have any offers so she's desperate and goes back to the the kid and says she'll go with him to the dance which is just a couple of weeks away. The kid then kicks the farm girl who picked him out before anyone else would to the curb.

 

[dfwtexan]

If you are such a strong Christian at heart wouldn't you honor your commitments?

I wish Kyle well, but spare me the excuses. His decision is a poor reflection of his integrity.

How would he have felt if after being committed to ISU since June that the coaches called him up last week and said we are not honoring your scholarship because we found someone we like better?

I realize that the recruiting game is a dirty business and this stuff happens for and against ISU, but please spare the justification based on strong Christianity.

Maybe during prayer, God put it on his heart for him to go to Baylor. Maybe his family got excited when he got the offer from a program close to home and pumped it up and the kid processed that into his decision. You never know. You are talking about 17-18 yr old kids. It is not a lack of integrity. These are life decisions these kids are making. You know programs put the hammer on these kids to commit to their school and make them feel the offer is only good if they commit then and there on the spot. "Commit now or this offer might not be there later." It is a lot of pressure and I can assure you most people on this board didn't stick to every commitment they had at 17-18; and, likely didn't have the same pressures placed on them like the game of recruiting. It is not like the kids is breaking one of God's commandments. Get real folks. I know it is frustrating and dissapointing; but, don't lock your bets or feelings on these kids until they sign the dotted line. Bring back early signing period if you want to stop the decommitments.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

Maybe during prayer, God put it on his heart for him to go to Baylor. Maybe his family got excited when he got the offer from a program close to home and pumped it up and the kid processed that into his decision. You never know. You are talking about 17-18 yr old kids. It is not a lack of integrity. These are life decisions these kids are making. You know programs put the hammer on these kids to commit to their school and make them feel the offer is only good if they commit then and there on the spot. "Commit now or this offer might not be there later." It is a lot of pressure and I can assure you most people on this board didn't stick to every commitment they had at 17-18; and, likely didn't have the same pressures placed on them like the game of recruiting. It is not like the kids is breaking one of God's commandments. Get real folks. I know it is frustrating and dissapointing; but, don't lock your bets or feelings on these kids until they sign the dotted line. Bring back early signing period if you want to stop the decommitments.

Hi Kyle's family member.

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

Maybe during prayer, God put it on his heart for him to go to Baylor. Maybe his family got excited when he got the offer from a program close to home and pumped it up and the kid processed that into his decision. You never know. You are talking about 17-18 yr old kids. It is not a lack of integrity. These are life decisions these kids are making. You know programs put the hammer on these kids to commit to their school and make them feel the offer is only good if they commit then and there on the spot. "Commit now or this offer might not be there later." It is a lot of pressure and I can assure you most people on this board didn't stick to every commitment they had at 17-18; and, likely didn't have the same pressures placed on them like the game of recruiting. It is not like the kids is breaking one of God's commandments. Get real folks. I know it is frustrating and dissapointing; but, don't lock your bets or feelings on these kids until they sign the dotted line. Bring back early signing period if you want to stop the decommitments.

Don't commit if you are not 100% sure on that commitment, thats all.