Kyle Boyd switches to Baylor

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xboxfever

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I disagree on that. I mean, there are lines you don't cross with negative recruiting and such but this is a business. I myself would like to see an early signing period. I would also like the signing to be binding between both the school and the player. Right now, LOIs are one sided and are definitely not in the best interest of the players. Everyone recruits already committed guys, it's just hwo it works.

Until you sign your LOI, everyone is fair game. Once they sign their LOI on signing day, they have essentially signed a contract with the school. Once that happens, it is illegal for other schools to come in contact with that player.
 

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Let's not even compare Iowa HS players with Texas HS talent. Kid was committed since June. There's no excuse for this. Shows a poor reflection of character from this kid.

Exactly, take it from someone that currently plays HS football in Iowa. Sure there are really good athletes but, there are not many great big time college football players in Iowa compared to Texas. The Iowa guys on our roster are good. We just can't live off of just Iowa guys because of the 2 major universities. If someone commits in June they better be damned well firmly committed.
 

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I know this guy and his family and this was a very difficult decision for Kyle, he loved everything about Iowa State, the coaches, the warm welcome he recieved and family feeling Ames has, the athletic department, academics, and he really loved the weather, he is a hunter, so the 2 go hand in hand.

This is a guy with a very strong family ties, a christian heart, very smart, and has a good head on his shoulders. He has lived Iowa State the past year and was very very committed to their school and team. However, sometimes you have to dig deep inside and make uncomfortable decisions, and knowing this guy, it wasn't easy.

Given the same offer at a Home State Christian University that you have grown up around, that is only an 1 1/2 hrs from home, what decision would you make??

I know Kyle will continue to watch Iowa State and wish their coaches and team the best of luck.

If you are such a strong Christian at heart wouldn't you honor your commitments?

I wish Kyle well, but spare me the excuses. His decision is a poor reflection of his integrity.

How would he have felt if after being committed to ISU since June that the coaches called him up last week and said we are not honoring your scholarship because we found someone we like better?

I realize that the recruiting game is a dirty business and this stuff happens for and against ISU, but please spare the justification based on strong Christianity.
 
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If you are such a strong Christian at heart wouldn't you honor your commitments?

I wish Kyle well, but spare me the excuses. His decision is a poor reflection of his integrity.

How would he have felt if after being committed to ISU since June that the coaches called him up last week said we are not honoring your scholarship because we found someone we like better?

I realize that the recruiting game is a dirty business and this stuff happens for and against ISU, but please spare the justification based on strong Christianity.

The kid made a choice he felt was in his best interest. Quit bashing the kid. He chose a school close to home so he could be closer to his family and whatever he decides to major may have also been a factor. He is 17-18 year old kid having to make a decision that will not only effect his immediate future, but his long term future in the end. Kids are going to change their minds, quit bashing every kid who changes his mind and decommits from ISU to be closer to home. I guess Shontrelle Johnson, Bo Williams, all the transfers on the basketball team have no integrity because they changed their minds on what school they wanted to attend. All those guys except Shontrelle were actually attended other schools so I guess that makes them even worse. Give me a break.
 

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The kid made a choice he felt was in his best interest. Quit bashing the kid. He chose a school close to home so he could be closer to his family and whatever he decides to major may have also been a factor. He is 17-18 year old kid having to make a decision that will not only effect his immediate future, but his long term future in the end. Kids are going to change their minds, quit bashing every kid who changes his mind and decommits from ISU to be closer to home. I guess Shontrelle Johnson, Bo Williams, all the transfers on the basketball team have no integrity because they changed their minds on what school they wanted to attend. All those guys except Shontrelle were actually attended other schools so I guess that makes them even worse. Give me a break.

Those were different situations :jimlad:
 

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The kid made a choice he felt was in his best interest. Quit bashing the kid. He chose a school close to home so he could be closer to his family and whatever he decides to major may have also been a factor. He is 17-18 year old kid having to make a decision that will not only effect his immediate future, but his long term future in the end. Kids are going to change their minds, quit bashing every kid who changes his mind and decommits from ISU to be closer to home. I guess Shontrelle Johnson, Bo Williams, all the transfers on the basketball team have no integrity because they changed their minds on what school they wanted to attend. All those guys except Shontrelle were actually attended other schools so I guess that makes them even worse. Give me a break.


If ISU had pulled this kids offer two weeks before signing day after a six month verbal agreement that they would hold a scholarship for him would, you say the coaches had to do what was in their best interest?

If in the process he lost the opportunity to get a free ride elsewhere because the other schools had moved on, would you say that is his problem?

Or would you say that was a poor reflection on the our coaching staff's integrity to string this kid along for six months and then pull the chair out from under him?

It is obvious that commitments are non binding and thus he is free to back out, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't reflect poorly on his word and integrity. There are repercussions for ones actions. Just because he is exercising something that is within his rights doesn't absolve him of criticism.

Your politically correct righteousness is not grounded in reality, but that doesn't mean you don't have the freedom to spew it.
 

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I know this guy and his family and this was a very difficult decision for Kyle, he loved everything about Iowa State, the coaches, the warm welcome he recieved and family feeling Ames has, the athletic department, academics, and he really loved the weather, he is a hunter, so the 2 go hand in hand.

This is a guy with a very strong family ties, a christian heart, very smart, and has a good head on his shoulders. He has lived Iowa State the past year and was very very committed to their school and team. However, sometimes you have to dig deep inside and make uncomfortable decisions, and knowing this guy, it wasn't easy.

Given the same offer at a Home State Christian University that you have grown up around, that is only an 1 1/2 hrs from home, what decision would you make??

I know Kyle will continue to watch Iowa State and wish their coaches and team the best of luck.

I really do not know where to start with this post. He was very, very committed? You may need to check into what the word committed means. Further, after showing his integrity you bring Home State Christian University and his Christian heart? Again, you may want to look into Christianity?

Besides the fact that he choose to live in Waco, Texas for 4-5 years I do not really have much of a problem with players decommitting. It is part of the game. But do not **** on me and tell me its raining.
 

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Knocking this kid's character probably says more about our posters than it does about him. You have to keep in mind that kids from out of state, are usually fans of one or more schools first and foremost ahead of ISU.

If it were an Iowa player, who had committed to Baylor because it didn't look like he was going to get an ISU offer, and then the kid gets a last minute call from CPR and he switched his commitment, we wouldn't be knocking his character.
 

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He committed months ago, then waited til a week before signing day to leave us high and dry for a conference rival. Total lack of integrity, he really screwed us over.
 

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He committed months ago, then waited til a week before signing day to leave us high and dry for a conference rival. Total lack of integrity, he really screwed us over.

Yep. But I understand him wanting to attend a Christian school with high morals, like Scott Drew and the basketball program. I'm sure the athletic department is making sure integrity and values come before winning.
 

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Yep. But I understand him wanting to attend a Christian school with high morals, like Scott Drew and the basketball program. I'm sure the athletic department is making sure integrity and values come before winning.

Absolutely. I'm sure its a top priority. That's what I heard from Dave Bliss, anyway.
 

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He committed months ago, then waited til a week before signing day to leave us high and dry for a conference rival. Total lack of integrity, he really screwed us over.

I would guess that most of the people questioning his integrity are originally from Iowa or within a couple hours of the Iowa border, and attended ISU.

Maybe in the end he decided that it would be hard for him to be away from his family for 4-5 years. Or maybe he decided that it was important for his family to be able go to more than 2-3 games per year.

If he doesn't want to be here, it's actually better that we find out now, then a year from now.
 

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If you are such a strong Christian at heart wouldn't you honor your commitments?

I wish Kyle well, but spare me the excuses. His decision is a poor reflection of his integrity.

How would he have felt if after being committed to ISU since June that the coaches called him up last week and said we are not honoring your scholarship because we found someone we like better?

I realize that the recruiting game is a dirty business and this stuff happens for and against ISU, but please spare the justification based on strong Christianity.

Wow!! Talk about "Facing the Giants."
 

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So, if you guys have accepted a job offer from a company 800 miles away, in the middle of Canada, then just before you sign a contract, you get an offer an hour and a half away from ISU, where you can catch every game--for the same or slightly better money--is it a "lack of integrity" to take the second offer?
 

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So, if you guys have accepted a job offer from a company 800 miles away, in the middle of Canada, then just before you sign a contract, you get an offer an hour and a half away from ISU, where you can catch every game--for the same or slightly better money--is it a "lack of integrity" to take the second offer?
 

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So, if you guys have accepted a job offer from a company 800 miles away, in the middle of Canada, then just before you sign a contract, you get an offer an hour and a half away from ISU, where you can catch every game--for the same or slightly better money--is it a "lack of integrity" to take the second offer?

Did the company in Canada halt their job search while other well-qualified applicants that they could have offered the position to found positions elsewhere during the 6+ month timeframe before I was to sign the contract?
 

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Did the company in Canada halt their job search while other well-qualified applicants that they could have offered the position to found positions elsewhere during the 6+ month timeframe before I was to sign the contract?

Probably, and we didn't. We signed two more LBers and were talking to others.
 
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