La Tech Transfer Xavian Stapleton on Campus

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I will trust Prohm until he proves me wrong. So if he likes him, that's good enough.

It's just that we've been one of the better basketball programs in the entire country the last few years, and this year are a consensus top 10 team going into the year. I'm just hoping to see our recruiting see an uptick along with the success we've had.

It's a bit bothersome with all the success we've had to see us going after guys that weren't recruited heavily at all and couldn't see the court much at La Tech, that's all.

Every year in football we have horrible recruiting classes compared with the rest of the Big 12, and every year we finish at or near the bottom of the Big 12 in football. Recruiting does matter. In fact, it might be the most important thing. I was just hoping at this point we'd be able to do better than taking marginal talent and hoping we can develop them.

This kid might be the next DeAndre Kane.... I hope so. All I can do at this point is trust Prohm. He knows a lot more than I do.

prohm got the job later than any other new coach this year and he replaced a staff that had stopped recruiting for 6 weeks. He could be an elite recruiter and he might fail this year. But don't worry if he sucks or if he's Fred Hoiberg 2.0, he will be gone in 5 years like every coach we have had since 1995.
 

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This name sounded familiar. Now I remember why. I saw he was transferring and La Tech restricted where he could go:

"According to the Clarion-Ledger, the school is restricting Stapleton from transferring to more than 50 Division I schools. On that list are other Conference USA schools, schools that are on future non-conference schedules and schools located in Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi and Texas. Also on the list is Florida, where former Louisiana Tech head coach Michael White is now in charge."

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...tions-on-transferring-guard-xavian-stapleton/

Yeah, I saw this as well. Makes one think that maybe this kid is the real deal, or that La Tech is just being jerks about it.

He also has some indirect ties with Prohm I believe. Prohm's previous assistant at Murray St.... McMahon... I believe was at La Tech and coached this kid I think? Something like that? Not sure.
 

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Said for Babb and Enst...sounds like a good way to return to McD days imo.

dont blame prohm for babb. He's tj's guy.

Heres the thing. We are ******** b/c Fred couldn't recruit. Yet he managed to be our most successful coach. If prohm can coach, this won't matter.

Mcdermott wasted too much time trying to build the program with high school kids v
 

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prohm got the job later than any other new coach this year and he replaced a staff that had stopped recruiting for 6 weeks. He could be an elite recruiter and he might fail this year. But don't worry if he sucks or if he's Fred Hoiberg 2.0, he will be gone in 5 years like every coach we have had since 1995.

This Stapleton kid would have to sit out this year, correct? So basically he's a 2016-17 recruit. Prohm has plenty of time to recruit 2016-17 kids. He doesn't have to reach for a guard this early when guard is the least of our needs right now.

Why should we fill our roster with "bodies", as some have said on here, with all the success we've had recently and the success we should have this year?

If we have the kind of success a lot of us are hoping we'll have this year, I would think we can get some better recruits than just "bodies" to fill out the bench and keep it warm.
 

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The 1.6 blocks per 40 stands out. About 40% of his rebounds were on the offensive glass. At 6-6, I think he could offer a lot of versatility. I doubt he's ever a focus on offense but it seems like he has the physical tools to be a valuable rotation guy.
 

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This Stapleton kid would have to sit out this year, correct? So basically he's a 2016-17 recruit. Prohm has plenty of time to recruit 2016-17 kids. He doesn't have to reach for a guard this early when guard is the least of our needs right now.

Why should we fill our roster with "bodies", as some have said on here, with all the success we've had recently and the success we should have this year?

If we have the kind of success a lot of us are hoping we'll have this year, I would think we can get some better recruits than just "bodies" to fill out the bench and keep it warm.

he doesn't have plenty of time. He basically had a month. And he had 7 spots to fill. 7 is over half the team.
 

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The more I look at him the more I like him, athletic, played behind two good guards on a team that won a lot of games. Was hoping to have one big that would sit out this year but if Prohm wants him I'm on board for it
 

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dont blame prohm for babb. He's tj's guy.

Heres the thing. We are ******** b/c Fred couldn't recruit. Yet he managed to be our most successful coach. If prohm can coach, this won't matter.

Mcdermott wasted too much time trying to build the program with high school kids v

That is a good point. We've already added Babb and Ernst, who were questionable Big 12 level players. Now if we add Stapleton we'd be up to 3 already. Yes, we have a lot of scholarships to hand out, but I just hope we don't fill those up with marginal guys first, and then when we go to the Final Four this year we don't have any left to hand out.
 

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he doesn't have plenty of time. He basically had a month. And he had 7 spots to fill. 7 is over half the team.

He only has one month to fill up 2016-17's roster? I wasn't aware of that? Signing day for the 2016-17 class is coming up soon? I didn't know that?
 

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That is a good point. We've already added Babb and Ernst, who were questionable Big 12 level players. Now if we add Stapleton we'd be up to 3 already. Yes, we have a lot of scholarships to hand out, but I just hope we don't fill those up with marginal guys first, and then when we go to the Final Four this year we don't have any left to hand out.

i highly doubt that will be s problem. Babb and the other kid aren't included in the 7.

The greek is most likely gone. There was probably a better chance of Fred being a lifer than Monte coming back. We have 1 open right now. And 4 seniors.

We can all worry about filling up with ****** talent when we only have 4 spots to fill. Right now it is 7.
 

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dont blame prohm for babb. He's tj's guy.

Heres the thing. We are ******** b/c Fred couldn't recruit. Yet he managed to be our most successful coach. If prohm can coach, this won't matter.

Mcdermott wasted too much time trying to build the program with high school kids v
Blame doesn't matter, and I wouldn't place any of this on Prohm.

Fred could recruit, very well, which is why he was our most successful coach. The issue is after 2012-13 his NBA desire started to kill off any long-term recruiting. Fred got out before his constipation on the recruiting trail was on his W-L record.
 

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i highly doubt that will be s problem. Babb and the other kid aren't included in the 7.

The greek is most likely gone. There was probably a better chance of Fred being a lifer than Monte coming back. We have 1 open right now. And 4 seniors.

We can all worry about filling up with ****** talent when we only have 4 spots to fill. Right now it is 7.

Point well taken. I won't worry about this at this point. I just hope we're smart enough to save some spots for after we kick total butt this year and everyone wants to come and play here. That's all.
 

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That is a good point. We've already added Babb and Ernst, who were questionable Big 12 level players. Now if we add Stapleton we'd be up to 3 already. Yes, we have a lot of scholarships to hand out, but I just hope we don't fill those up with marginal guys first, and then when we go to the Final Four this year we don't have any left to hand out.

Stapleton is by far the most B12 ready of the group. He at least showed some production when playing a small role. Plus he will get a year to sit and learn and develop, and we have seen how useful that can be.

Personally I wish we'd have gone for another transfer but it doesn't seem like we've sniffed some of the bigger name ones since Prohm got here.

(Or Fred for that matter. I thought we'd go harder after transfers to give the 16/17 roster a jolt, like a mini version of when Fred first got here and with better players, but he didn't do it for some reason.)
 

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Blame doesn't matter, and I wouldn't place any of this on Prohm.

Fred could recruit, very well, which is why he was our most successful coach. The issue is after 2012-13 his NBA desire started to kill off any long-term recruiting. Fred got out before his constipation on the recruiting trail was on his W-L record.

I think it's pretty obvious why Fred left for the NBA.... he hated recruiting with a passion. And yes, he basically stopped recruiting when he knew he would be gone about 6 months or more ago it seems.
 

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i highly doubt that will be s problem. Babb and the other kid aren't included in the 7.

The greek is most likely gone. There was probably a better chance of Fred being a lifer than Monte coming back. We have 1 open right now. And 4 seniors.

We can all worry about filling up with ****** talent when we only have 4 spots to fill. Right now it is 7.

Monte Morris' decision will be made for him by NBA scouts and his performance this year.

Sure, he wants to go pro, but it's not like he is currently a slam dunk in the first round. He is going to have to make a lot of improvements to get to that point. And if it's one more year at ISU or a 2nd round deal, I think he'll come back.

At this time last year there were people saying Monte was going pro after last year. That's how it goes I guess.
 

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Stapleton is by far the most B12 ready of the group. He at least showed some production when playing a small role. Plus he will get a year to sit and learn and develop, and we have seen how useful that can be.

Personally I wish we'd have gone for another transfer but it doesn't seem like we've sniffed some of the bigger name ones since Prohm got here.

(Or Fred for that matter. I thought we'd go harder after transfers to give the 16/17 roster a jolt, like a mini version of when Fred first got here and with better players, but he didn't do it for some reason.)

I would have liked to see our name mentioned with that big from St. John's that is visiting Minnesota. Not sure why we wouldn't go after him, especially since Matt A. would help us out most likely since he said he would steer guys to ISU that didn't want to be at St. Johns.
 
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