Latest Bracketology

Cyinthenorth

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 29, 2013
15,903
11,981
113
36
Dubuque
Everyone needs to come to accept that there is a pretty good chance Iowa makes the tourney and we don’t. Despite how Iowa has no quality wins. They’re gonna be in.
It sucks honestly. Starting to feel like back when we'd beat Iowa in football then finish 3-9 while they ended their season somewhere warm.
 

aeroclone

Well-Known Member
Oct 30, 2006
10,370
7,190
113
eh I tend to agree with blum from the podcast last sunday..

we had 8 games left counting last night. go 4-4 and you're probably in the tourney.

would be 7-11 in conference.

we win out at home (kstate, oklahoma, wvu, okst) and we should be fine. steal one at TCU or at kstate and that would help.

Totally agree with Blum that 4-4 in this scenario gets us safely in. I just don't think we are capable of doing that. I also don't think we can win a road game to help our case.
 

Cyinthenorth

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 29, 2013
15,903
11,981
113
36
Dubuque
People that think Iowa is going to pile up wins now because of their schedule are in for a surprise. They'll definitely lose at Maryland tomorrow and I wouldn't be surprised if Nebraska gets them in Lincoln.
I see at least 4 more regular season losses and a blowout on the Big 10 tourney.
"they'll definitely lose at Maryland tomorrow" Idk. Maryland is bad, probably worse than Penn St.
"I wouldn't be surprised if Nebraska gets them in Lincoln." I would, all things Fran fade considered.
 

Cyinthenorth

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 29, 2013
15,903
11,981
113
36
Dubuque
Totally agree with Blum that 4-4 in this scenario gets us safely in. I just don't think we are capable of doing that. I also don't think we can win a road game to help our case.
I can't see us winning another game right now in general, let alone on the road. Our only road Big 12 win was against OSU and it took overtime plus one of, if not our best offensive effort of the season.
 
  • Like
Reactions: CyBobby

CoachHines3

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Oct 29, 2019
9,575
19,555
113
Totally agree with Blum that 4-4 in this scenario gets us safely in. I just don't think we are capable of doing that. I also don't think we can win a road game to help our case.

def tough right now
 

Cyinthenorth

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 29, 2013
15,903
11,981
113
36
Dubuque
And Iowa lost against Penn State. Obviously it's not a sure thing, but that's not a game I see them winning on the road. Maryland already smoked Illinois at home.
I definitely hope you're right. Would love to see the Hawks have another epic February collapse
 

dahliaclone

Well-Known Member
Mar 4, 2007
16,187
25,040
113
Minneapolis
Two things. First we need to start looking at all the other P5 teams all these ‘experts’ have in or around the bubble. To me the P5 teams on the bubble have absolutely no case of getting in over us. The bubble is so soft. The wins in non con for us are gonna matter if…

…we can actually win 3/4 games. As I said on another post looking at Kansas state and their losses. Oof. I don’t see a win in Hilton for us. Hope I’m wrong. And if we lose I think it’s over for any tourney talk.
 

cyclones500

Well-Known Member
Jan 29, 2010
38,841
26,881
113
Michigan
basslakebeacon.com

drmwevr08

Well-Known Member
Nov 25, 2006
7,693
3,712
113
Arizona
Do they no longer take in to any account when you were good or how you finished? If that is relevant our wins are likely discounted . Its almost like we lost our superstar mid season. I wouldn't want to put this team the way they are playing in any matchup. If they manage to really ignore that then?? Still can't lose out.
 

goody2012

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Aug 28, 2014
1,145
1,302
113
Do they no longer take in to any account when you were good or how you finished? If that is relevant our wins are likely discounted . Its almost like we lost our superstar mid season. I wouldn't want to put this team the way they are playing in any matchup. If they manage to really ignore that then?? Still can't lose out.
They do not... beginning of the season weighted the same as end.
 

cyclones500

Well-Known Member
Jan 29, 2010
38,841
26,881
113
Michigan
basslakebeacon.com
They do not... beginning of the season weighted the same as end.

Correct.

For a few years, there was a "Last 10" element, later extended to "Last 12" ... can't recall how long it was used or specifically when it was dropped ... maybe almost 20 years by now. I'm also not sure how much of a factor it played in the overall selection process.

The basic concept of having a L10/12 category, was to have teams in the field that were "playing their best basketball" down the stretch (compared to teams "limping into the tournament," so to speak).

Trouble is, you can't automatically quantify it simply thru W-L, since it doesn't account for strength of opponent during those games. Almost like it was "eye test with a winning percentage attached to it."
 
  • Agree
Reactions: VeloClone

dahliaclone

Well-Known Member
Mar 4, 2007
16,187
25,040
113
Minneapolis
They have to fill the bracket somehow so we can also start looking at teams in the 7-12 seeded range from Lunardi/Palm etc and hope they lose as much as possible.

Seton Hall
Boise State
Wyoming
San Diego State
BYU
North Carolina
Virginia
Notre Dame
Oregon
St. Mary's
Wake Forest
TCU
Florida
Miami
Oklahoma
Indiana
Colorado State
Iowa
San Francisco

Those are teams I want losing as much as possible right now.

The fact Lundari has a team like Miami as an 11 seed with a NET of 71 and only 2 Quad 1 wins tells me we might be in better shape than we think...just win a couple more. PLEASE
 
  • Like
Reactions: cyclones500

CloneGuy8

Well-Known Member
Mar 20, 2017
11,856
23,228
113
40
Before last nights loss, the bracket matrix still had us as the top 7 seed. Our non-conference performance is saving our ass currently
 

awd4cy

Well-Known Member
Dec 29, 2010
28,003
19,616
113
Central Iowa
They have to fill the bracket somehow so we can also start looking at teams in the 7-12 seeded range from Lunardi/Palm etc and hope they lose as much as possible.

Seton Hall
Boise State
Wyoming
San Diego State
BYU
North Carolina
Virginia
Notre Dame
Oregon
St. Mary's
Wake Forest
TCU
Florida
Miami
Oklahoma
Indiana
Colorado State
Iowa
San Francisco

Those are teams I want losing as much as possible right now.

The fact Lundari has a team like Miami as an 11 seed with a NET of 71 and only 2 Quad 1 wins tells me we might be in better shape than we think...just win a couple more. PLEASE
Lunardi sometimes is way off with a few teams
 

dahliaclone

Well-Known Member
Mar 4, 2007
16,187
25,040
113
Minneapolis
Not a good night for teams we want to lose to lose...

SMU just beat #6 Houston

Rutgers just beat Ohio State

Seton Hall just beat Xavier

On a positive note...Baylor is pulling away from Kansas State in Manhattan. I was a bit worried KSU would keep things close...