Leath

[JP4CY]

harkin, as much as I like and respect him

Wow, don't see that very often.

 

[Tornado man]

So let's say you and your sibling are taken to the park by your mom. You're all having fun and playing, but your sibling is being a brat, throwing fits and breaking playground equiptment. Is your mom just going to leave you there while taking your sibling home to punish them? Or are you going to have to go with even though you were behaving yourself? Often in life, everyone gets punished because others are misbehaving. Same as in sports. When I played, the whole team ran when one person did something stupid.

OK - I remember as a small child when I ran out into the street, even though I was told never to do that. I was punished for it. Using Leath's VEISHEA reasoning, they would have closed the street down...

 

[CyDude16]

Do you really think if Leath and JP didn't want those football players on the field, they would be? BuBu was back on the team and eligible to play, but JP and Leath went out of their way with their public statements to make it impossible for Fred to play him. Where were the "honor before victory" public statements for the football felons? And painting all of Veishea as just a wild drunkfest is unfair and an easy way to dump it imo. And they're Harkin's papers, why shouldn't he get all or at least most of what he wanted? Seems like putting restrictions on them is a pretty big deal, and obviously it was to the Harkins. We're just not gonna agree at all on this but that doesn't make either one of us "daft".

again, leath was only forced into the bubu situation because it was appealed to him.

 

[CyDude16]

He flat out is not as good as Geoffrey. Maybe he will get better.

What I am saying is something like Clinton > Bush or Obama

Where did I say he was as good as Geoffrey? Cause I didn't, but IMO he is a good replacement.