Solomon Young and Cameron Lard were definitely eased in. However, Wigginton was thrown out there right away. I think he trusts freshman just fine when they've shown they can be trusted.
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He said true freshman so we have an example of Young eased into it and Wigginton thrown into the fire. That's not a lot of data for something he's learned about Prohm.
No way Lard doesn't start. Too productive offensively and on the glass.
Although I agree that this is probably the starting lineup to start the year, starting both Lard and Young limits floor spacing and available shooters. Prohm predicates a lot of his offense on spacing similar to Fred, and having these two in at the same time devalues that a bit, in my opinion. I think starting either Talley or Horton-Tucker over Young is the better offensive move.
I think right out of the gate I wouldn't be surprised if Prohm gives the nod to the seniors and starts Talley over lard at the four/send a message that he isn't going to get away with his off the court stuff without actually suspending him since the offenses were so minor. Not to say he doesn't get starter minutes, but doesn't actually start the first few games while they feel things out.
Everyone seems to think Shayok is going to be playing the 3 and 4 but I see him more in the 1-3 range. Prohm loves his big guards and it sounds like he wants to have the ball in his hands (part of his reason for leaving UVA).
Talley was 7/25 from three last year. Solomon was 3/19. Neither can shoot at an acceptable level. You are starting Lewis, THT, or another guard if you want a lineup that adds net shooting by taking Young off the floor, not Talley. Talley will be out there for defense and for his handle, in case we need to break a press or need another ball-handler, not for shooting.
So many people seem to want to reduce Young's minutes or take him out of the starting lineup. Solo does so much more than stat sheet stuff. He'll get his minutes.
He is the functional equivalent of an offensive lineman. He sets screens, boxes out, clogs the lane, and plays good post defense. He indirectly creates space for Lard to work around the hoop and on the boards and for the guards while cutting.
None of this shows up in the stat sheet, but it all matters towards the outcome of a game. He is an old school PF. People forget what they are for. We have the added bonus that he has the personality to completely embrace such a role, too.
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Like anyone with 1/2 a brain I'll get on the Solomon Young bandwagon too. Every team ... needs a Dustin Hogue type workhorse, blue collar mailman type. Shows up, works hard, does the dirty work, the little things. Coaches love dudes like that ... for good reason.
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Since this thread is about lineups, I'll offer my thoughts. First, I really like this team ... lots and lots of potential here ... maybe more so than any team in ISU history. Chemistry and buy in will be key. To begin:
pg: wiggy
sg: babbs
sf: shayok
pf: solo
c: lard
rotation:
sg, sf: lewis, tht
bigs: jacobson ... talley
So we go 8 deep, 9 if you count Talley.
Basically ... Wiggy runs the point and when he needs a break/gets in foul trouble ... Nick runs it. First guy off the the bench is Lewis. Or maybe Talon if he is ready; THT will get minutes. Bigs are easy. Jacobson ... offers pretty much the same blue collar size/attitude as Solo ... with the bennie that he's actually got a decent shot from 3 pt range. Way I look at it ... Lard, Solo, Jacobson are pretty much interchangeable. And make no mistake ... 2 of the 3 will be in there all the time unless there is serious foul trouble. Game is 2 flexible bigs and 3 interchangeable 1-3s.
People may question Nick at the 2. I think his contributions have always been overlooked, heck ... nobody last year thought he could play the point and he averaged close to a triple double. So ... put him at the 2 and tell him to shoot more ... will he ? Can he ? Yes and yes. Between him and wiggy and shayok ... they will get their points. I see each of them averaging 12-15 pts per game. And Lewis too ... coming off the bench in a Naz type ... gunslinger role. I see Terrence averaging like 6-8 pts per game; not bad for a soph. Ditto for THT ... he will get his minutes ... might get 16 one night and 0 the next. He'll get serious minutes and score some too.
My prediction 4th in the b12 and sweet 16.
pg: wiggy
sg: babbs
sf: shayok
pf: solo
c: lard
rotation:
sg, sf: lewis, tht
bigs: jacobson ... talley
So we go 8 deep, 9 if you count Talley.
Basically ... Wiggy runs the point and when he needs a break/gets in foul trouble ... Nick runs it. First guy off the the bench is Lewis. Or maybe Talon if he is ready; THT will get minutes. Bigs are easy. Jacobson ... offers pretty much the same blue collar size/attitude as Solo ... with the bennie that he's actually got a decent shot from 3 pt range. Way I look at it ... Lard, Solo, Jacobson are pretty much interchangeable. And make no mistake ... 2 of the 3 will be in there all the time unless there is serious foul trouble. Game is 2 flexible bigs and 3 interchangeable 1-3s.
People may question Nick at the 2. I think his contributions have always been overlooked, heck ... nobody last year thought he could play the point and he averaged close to a triple double. So ... put him at the 2 and tell him to shoot more ... will he ? Can he ? Yes and yes. Between him and wiggy and shayok ... they will get their points. I see each of them averaging 12-15 pts per game. And Lewis too ... coming off the bench in a Naz type ... gunslinger role. I see Terrence averaging like 6-8 pts per game; not bad for a soph. Ditto for THT ... he will get his minutes ... might get 16 one night and 0 the next. He'll get serious minutes and score some too.
My prediction 4th in the b12 and sweet 16.
