Mack Brown on ISU

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In public. In private he's told his players that it's incumbent upon them to beat us by a large margin (larger than OU). That's not respect.

Lot's of coaches have respect in public when their team is winning. They LOVE to pat ISU on the head and say "nice try little buddy". You'll remember things got a lot less nice when we beat NU in '09, UT last season and how 'bout all the classy hawk fans around here lately.

It's not a bad thing though. I honestly don't think we've gotten UT's attention yet. They will look past us to OU.

I don't know any Longhorn fans personally, but I've heard nothing but good things from Husker fans that I know, and Hawks haven't had much bad to say about us on this board.
 

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Their offense is more confident with McCoy emerging at QB and their new Offensive Coord from Boise St getting comfortable with the schemes. They handled UCLA pretty good on the road and they will not forget the loss to us last year.
 

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In public. In private he's told his players that it's incumbent upon them to beat us by a large margin (larger than OU). That's not respect.

Lot's of coaches have respect in public when their team is winning. They LOVE to pat ISU on the head and say "nice try little buddy". You'll remember things got a lot less nice when we beat NU in '09, UT last season and how 'bout all the classy hawk fans around here lately.

It's not a bad thing though. I honestly don't think we've gotten UT's attention yet. They will look past us to OU.

I don't think we are on UT's radar either. The problem with UT is that they simply expect to show up and win this game. That is how it has always been and ISU beating them last season will have little impact on those players. It was a terrible year for them last season and they have won all of their games so far (against very weak opposition) so those kids are probably thinking to themselves that they are "back" and that they will crush ISU simply because they are so good. Had Texas lost that game to BYU I wouldn't give ISU a really good chance of beating Texas but because they did and are unbeaten I think we can catch Texas napping on ISU next Saturday.

If the coach has to sell it that hard.... well to me that is a great sign for ISU. If that was a truly motivated team the players wouldn't need to be sold on the merit of ISU by Mack. Those kids would be chomping at the bit to destroy whoever got in their way. That doesn't appear to be the case.
 

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I think this has statement game written all over it for the Horns. After a pitiful season last year, and a slow start this year, they are ready to show everyone that they are back on track. They seem to have their QB situation figured out and the offense starting to click. Now they have two weeks to get some reps in and roll into Ames ready to kickoff their conference schedule on a high note. I don't know that they so much have revenge on their minds for ISU in particular, just more redemption for their program as a whole. I can see them coming in and running it up. We can't come out slow in this one like we did with UNI and UConn.
 
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Nebraska, yes. Texas was not one of the top schools last year. They finished with the exact same record we have, and I'd argue we played the tougher schedule. They flat out weren't good.

And I can pretty much guarantee the Oklahoma schools probably overlook Iowa State. I don't believe we have beaten either since I've been in school, and have lot some ugly, ugly games to them. Wouldn't be surprised if A&M also does because we haven't consistently competed with even the middle tier of the conference.

If we could just beat Father Time we'd be right in the lower middle of the conference. :mad:

When I said top schools, I didn't just mean on the field, I also mean in prestige. We used to be seen as the whipping boy for the conference (along with Baylor) for these schools to rack up easy wins on their way to the BCS. However, Paul Rhoads is starting to change that. While these schools may still overlook us, they will pay the price. BTW, I remember when ISU beat A&M (on the road) and Okie State in my freshman year (2005). And we gave Oklahoma quite a scare in 2007, and led them at halftime at home. I was so ****** we lost that game, OU basically gave it to us. But I think that we are on the rise, and the rest of the conference knows it.
 

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The clip of Rhoads (someone posted a link to yesterday) @ some Cyclone event next to JTS said it all. Pretty soon, it will be difficult to get a seat in there.
Mack Brown can coach-speak all he wants. He has a bunch of freshmen, & they weren't part of the team ISU man-handled last year.

I've heard ISU fans talk about Texas (& other schools, like Nebraska), and when their players come out on the field, they are so much bigger & look stronger, blah, blah, blah. After looking at the 2 deeps, seems to look pretty even to me. Biggest difference is their DB's are taller. OL & DL look comparable (actually, w/KO & Hicks, our OL is bigger). Speed is another thing, but outside of Goodwin (do not believe anyone in the entire nation can match up with him) I believe we have upgraded this aspect from last year.

We need to get AK 47, Knott, & Tau'fo'ou in some shoulder pads with spikes on them and red colored mo-hawks with face paint. Rhoads' Warriors - like the sound of that.

UCLA looked awful. BYU - young & on the road @ Texas. This is our house, and they are the younger, less experienced team with 2 new coordinators. Despite the beatdown last year, Longhorns believe this to be a tune-up game for OU.

Go get em, Cyclones
 

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Cool to get newfound respect ... but part of me wishes he told 'em, "Eh, don't worry about this game." :cool:

He told them to watch out for us last year and we all know how that turned out.

I think there is about even shot for them overlooking us vs. not. Regardless, we need to play error-free and punch them in the mouth coming out of the tunnel. We can play with anyone.
 

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Their offense is more confident with McCoy emerging at QB and their new Offensive Coord from Boise St getting comfortable with the schemes. They handled UCLA pretty good on the road and they will not forget the loss to us last year.

UCLA sucks balls. They lost to Houston and barely handled an embarrassment to college football in San Jose State. UCLA's defense is HORRIBLE. How do you go to the 4th quarter tied with San Jose State.... a team averaging 11.3 points per game? For God's sake this team has a 3-25 record since 2009 and the majority of their games are in the crappy WAC.

In summary... Texas is feeling good about beating up on UCLA without taking into account that UCLA may win 2 or 3 games this year.

Edit... they also feel good about that big comeback win against BYU 17-16. They must have missed Utah going into Provo to play BYU and thrashing them by 40+ points. Texas has proven absolutely nothing so far but if you ask their players.... I bet you they would tell everyone that Texas Football is back.
 
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Tejas right now believes they are back - not in the sense that a NC is around the corner, but they will beat all the teams that do not belong in the same building as they do (us, Baylor, TTech, KSU, KU), and they will be competitive with the big boys and hopefully steal 1 or 2 (OU, A&M, OSU) to start off the next McCoy/Shipley2.0 version of the Longhorns.

What I want to see: our first comlete game. Sure, we have had to perform 4th quarter comebacks in each of the first 3 games. Why? Turnovers & poor play (particularly in the 1st half), yet we have still won.

KO mauls Okafor/Jeffcoat (like he did in the Iowa game this year), offense protects the ball, passing is accurate, DL controls LOS (like last year - UT OL is not much different) & pressures QB, front 7 controls run (& especially the running QB they rotate), DBs make prevent big plays & come up with a couple of their own (picks).
Do this, we win by 3 touchdowns. Do this, the powers that be will really take note. ISU suddenly isn't some novelty, aw, they're perennially bad and they've had a good start - good for them!

Would really like to just hand their arses to them.
 

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Tejas right now believes they are back - not in the sense that a NC is around the corner, but they will beat all the teams that do not belong in the same building as they do (us, Baylor, TTech, KSU, KU), and they will be competitive with the big boys and hopefully steal 1 or 2 (OU, A&M, OSU) to start off the next McCoy/Shipley2.0 version of the Longhorns.

What I want to see: our first comlete game. Sure, we have had to perform 4th quarter comebacks in each of the first 3 games. Why? Turnovers & poor play (particularly in the 1st half), yet we have still won.

KO mauls Okafor/Jeffcoat (like he did in the Iowa game this year), offense protects the ball, passing is accurate, DL controls LOS (like last year - UT OL is not much different) & pressures QB, front 7 controls run (& especially the running QB they rotate), DBs make prevent big plays & come up with a couple of their own (picks).
Do this, we win by 3 touchdowns. Do this, the powers that be will really take note. ISU suddenly isn't some novelty, aw, they're perennially bad and they've had a good start - good for them!

Would really like to just hand their arses to them.

Agree with everything. I'd happily take another 1-point nailbiter, but NOTHING would be sweeter than to absolutely pound them.

Living in Austin and seeing in person the extravagance of the UT program and the smugness of their alums, the Horns have replaced the Hawks as #1 on my **** list.
 
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It doesn't matter if Texas is over looking us or not. Were gonna beat their rookie ***** either way.
 

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What I want to see: our first comlete game. Sure, we have had to perform 4th quarter comebacks in each of the first 3 games. Why? Turnovers & poor play (particularly in the 1st half), yet we have still won.

agreed. We cannot give up an early lead, Texas is still building confidence. We need to crush them at the beginning of both halves. Texas only has 2 drives this year of 80 yards or more that resulted in points. We need to play the field position game and make McCoy drive the lenght of the field to score. If we don't turn the ball over and stuff their running game we win easily.
 

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Agree with everything. I'd happily take another 1-point nailbiter, but NOTHING would be sweeter than to absolutely pound them.

Living in Austin and seeing in person the extravagance of the UT program and the smugness of their alums, the Horns have replaced the Hawks as #1 on my **** list.

Yep.
 

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I say we tap the brakes and take this 1 week at a time. Let's focus on this week's bye.
 
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I can't believe he's telling his team to beat ISU by a large margin. Texas isn't Texas of the past. He would be happy with a last second field goal to win by one. This is a conference road game and Texas will struggle to win any conference road games. Look at it this way, this could be ISU's easiest conference game excluding KU. ISU's other home games are OSU and A&M, two teams that are quite a bit better then Texas this year.

You would get more posts if you were an ISU fan.

I was referring to last season when we played UT the week after a 0-52 drubbing in Norman.

Before the ISU/UT game Brown explained to his team that they needed to beat us worse than OU did. That is not respect. That is an expectation of being able to completely dominate an opponent. You don't change that attitude over night and if you're UT why would you? They will always have more money and talent than us. In no way does Brown express respect for us to his team in fact I'm sure it's quite the opposite. They will come to Ames expecting to show up, get back on track w/ a win and move on to a "real game", OU.

I like our chances.
 

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You would get more posts if you were an ISU fan.

I was referring to last season when we played UT the week after a 0-52 drubbing in Norman.

Before the ISU/UT game Brown explained to his team that they needed to beat us worse than OU did. That is not respect. That is an expectation of being able to completely dominate an opponent. You don't change that attitude over night and if you're UT why would you? They will always have more money and talent than us. In no way does Brown express respect for us to his team in fact I'm sure it's quite the opposite. They will come to Ames expecting to show up, get back on track w/ a win and move on to a "real game", OU.

I like our chances.

I know that the UT coaches are not taking this game lightly. The players on the other hand who knows what goes on in the minds of 18 year old boys. We'll I know what was going on in my mind when I was 18 but that is a different story.