Matt Campbell quit on this team.

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Props to Iowa and all, but let's be real here...prior to the season nobody was saying or expecting this. Iowa is fluky. Could they win the conference? Maybe, Ohio St looks human this year. But this can't really be one of the best KF teams. Very opportunistic and fortunate so far this year. When they play someone that doesn't turn the ball over and has some semblance of competent offense, they will struggle to keep up.
while this probably isn't one of the best Iowa teams KF has had, they do just enough to win and really, the Big Ten west is not that great of a division. Minnesota and Nebraska can never beat Iowa it seems, and Wisconsin is probably their only threat right now
 

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You have no clue. If he would have quit, he would have kept running the ball and not passed. He would have ran out the clock and not tried to kick the FG. You guys who think he quit are some of the biggest babies that don’t know anything about Campbell or the game it appears. Everything he did was to give ISU the best shot at winning. If one game gives you this type of crap to spew, please become Hawkeye fans because that is the stupid crap they yap about.

Did you leave a second before the game was over? If so, any of you then would be the quitters.

Wow - got pretty aggressive there without addressing any of my reasonings behind why I think he accepted the loss. As you are clearly the superior football mind, I would be interested to see your justification/math behind why punting with about 8 minutes to go in a 17 point game gives you a better chance to comeback than going for it.
 

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Our game plan should be the same for every team:

1. Feed Breece
2. Feed Breece
3. Feed Breece
4. Playaction TE's and WR
5. Repeat
I was asking for play action before the game even started. Hell, I was hoping for it on the very first play of the game. Iowa's defense was going to be amped up, give them some sort of misdirection to bite on and slow them from the very start. Everyone knew they were going to be keying on Breece. When we finally got play action, it was a completion for a significant gain. Then we didn't see it again.

When you have a stable of receivers who struggle to get separation play action can really help them out. And they do struggle getting separation.
 

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Would it make you guys feel better about this if I change the title to Matt Campbell quit on this game instead of Matt Campbell quit on this team?

Still rings true but seems some of you don’t want to admit it.
 
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Wow - got pretty aggressive there without addressing any of my reasonings behind why I think he accepted the loss. As you are clearly the superior football mind, I would be interested to see your justification/math behind why punting with about 8 minutes to go in a 17 point game gives you a better chance to comeback than going for it.
Iirc, we were deeper in out territory, we go and don’t make it we guarantee we are down 3 more points and will get the ball on the kickoff right where we were. You punt and hope to flip the field or get it back where you were. We burnt a time-out on that D possession also to save time. It was the smart choice especially having just inserted Hunter. You got him some snaps and now can coach him up for a bit to get him ready for the next.
 

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You have no clue. If he would have quit, he would have kept running the ball and not passed. He would have ran out the clock and not tried to kick the FG. You guys who think he quit are some of the biggest babies that don’t know anything about Campbell or the game it appears. Everything he did was to give ISU the best shot at winning. If one game gives you this type of crap to spew, please become Hawkeye fans because that is the stupid crap they yap about.

Did you leave a second before the game was over? If so, any of you then would be the quitters.

If he would have quit, he wouldn't have tried an onside kick, and wouldn't have kicked a FG down 10 to give us the best shot at going to OT. So i agree he didn't quit.

Saying that everything he did was to give us the best shot at winning also is not true. He made a QB change 1 possession too early. Down 17 with 12:53 left in the game is not the best time to put in Dekkers and then ease him into the game. At that point, our best shot to win was to stick with Purdy and go full jet and answer quickly. Purdy is a competitor, and has earned the right to get that shot, and Campbell didn't give it to him. Is it the smart move long term to bench starters, preserve health and take the loss and play another day. Sure, and that's not quitting on the team. Coaches wave the white flag when the game's outcome is in hand all the time. But it also not "doing everything we can to win". Its not one or the other. Campbell made some big mistakes in the 4th quarter of this game. He still has my 100% support, and i still believe in this team, i stayed til the end. But be real about it. Coach let off the gas too early and decided that sending a message to the team about taking care of the ball was more valuable than sending a message that we never give up. Maybe that pays off in the end, we shall see.
 

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Just a bad day for everyone except hok fans and our defense. I'll buy you a cocktail in Vegas Saturday if you have gotten off the ledge. We'll feel better in two months after we are back in the top ten and the hoks are wondering what the hell happened to their season.

Iowa is going to run into some teams that won't help them with turnovers, and with their anemic offense, they will struggle to beat some teams.
 

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If he would have quit, he wouldn't have tried an onside kick, and wouldn't have kicked a FG down 10 to give us the best shot at going to OT. So i agree he didn't quit.

Saying that everything he did was to give us the best shot at winning also is not true. He made a QB change 1 possession too early. Down 17 with 12:53 left in the game is not the best time to put in Dekkers and then ease him into the game. At that point, our best shot to win was to stick with Purdy and go full jet and answer quickly. Purdy is a competitor, and has earned the right to get that shot, and Campbell didn't give it to him. Is it the smart move long term to bench starters, preserve health and take the loss and play another day. Sure, and that's not quitting on the team. Coaches wave the white flag when the game's outcome is in hand all the time. But it also not "doing everything we can to win". Its not one or the other. Campbell made some big mistakes in the 4th quarter of this game. He still has my 100% support, and i still believe in this team, i stayed til the end. But be real about it. Coach let off the gas too early and decided that sending a message to the team about taking care of the ball was more valuable than sending a message that we never give up. Maybe that pays off in the end, we shall see.
Purdy was struggling at that point. He started 5/8 I remember and then was 8/19 with 3 picks. It was mentioned that he not fully straight mentally and dekkers was inserted to sort that out. At that point dekkers (with a stronger arm) is your better option. An inexperienced QB with nothing to lose gives you a better chance than a QB questioning himself.
 

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while this probably isn't one of the best Iowa teams KF has had, they do just enough to win and really, the Big Ten west is not that great of a division. Minnesota and Nebraska can never beat Iowa it seems, and Wisconsin is probably their only threat right now
True, they can run the table, not that I truly believe they are a top 5 or even top 10 team in the country. Penn St is on the schedule I believe.
 
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Iirc, we were deeper in out territory, we go and don’t make it we guarantee we are down 3 more points and will get the ball on the kickoff right where we were. You punt and hope to flip the field or get it back where you were. We burnt a time-out on that D possession also to save time. It was the smart choice especially having just inserted Hunter. You got him some snaps and now can coach him up for a bit to get him ready for the next.

I guess this is where we disagree. With that little time left, I don't think you have the luxury to try and flip the field. I believe this proved out with how we had to play the final minute of the game after punting. Additionally, a "guaranteed" FG if we don't convert still keeps you in a 3 possession game. As stated earlier, probably wouldn't have mattered as it was desperation time, just would like to see us be more aggressive.
 
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I guess this is where we disagree. With that little time left, I don't think you have the luxury to try and flip the field. I believe this proved out with how we had to play the final minute of the game after punting. Additionally, a "guaranteed" FG if we don't convert still keeps you in a 3 possession game. As stated earlier, probably wouldn't have mattered as it was desperation time, just would like to see us be more aggressive.
2 TDs and a FG is easier than 3 TDs.

Would have been nice to know what would have happened if the right call on the onside kick was made. Refs dropped the flag for illegal touching and then picked it up saying he was blocked out of bounds. Video board replay was a perfect shot of said player never being touched, going out of bounds on his own and then touching the ball.
 

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What were the first 3 quarters of this game?
Initial game plan was fine. ISU got off to a slow start, traded blows and even ended up winning the 1st quarter. Took a big blow in the 2nd quarter, staggered, but stuck with it in the 2nd. 3rd quarter is when the wheels fell off.
 

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Iirc - we were a narrowly missed fg from scoring 1/2 of our points with Dekkers in 12 mins?? Don't give me the prevent defense excuse - Iowa always rushed 4 and dropped 7.

For those of you that still don't get it: games like this are full of short-term (game situation) and long-term strategic decisions (season, experience grabbing, message sending, change of pace,etc).

It had absolutely nothing to do with quitting the game or quitting on the team.
 

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Our game plan should be the same for every team:

1. Feed Breece
2. Feed Breece
3. Feed Breece
4. Playaction TE's and WR
5. Repeat
I remember when we ran that WR screen all too often when defenders loaded the box and now I can't remember the last time I saw it. At one point in the third quarter Iowa was pinning their ears back and Purdy had no chance. Where is the old WR or any other type of screen to get the pressure off Purdy?
 
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