Monster tornado

Pretty tiny sample size you’re looking at when factoring the earths existence. I guess it beats the 100 feet of ice that existed at one time in central iowa. Had to see quite a warming trend to melt all that.

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Survival rate in E4+ tornadoes, inside a well-built home is 99%.

In most cases, you're taking a bigger risk by leaving shelter. You aren't living through it in a car, and you're at risk to secondary threats besides the main funnel now.

Ground-level, interior room of a well-built home (not a trailer) is definitely where you want to be.

https:// journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/89/1/bams-89-1-87.xml

I agree, but we’ve seen pictures of “well-built” homes after this storm (on slab with anchors) that are completely gone. I agree with you, but with this storm, on a 250 mile track there was ample time to get away from it. However I understand that most people don’t care, don’t pay attention, and don’t have the interest that others have so your point is well taken.

Me personally, if I were in Mayfield all things being equal, I probably would have drove away from it even with a basement with the velocities and CCs coming out of that storm.
 
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Yeah focus on those tiny blue lines in the 60s and 70s and ignore the obvious straight line trend, great idea. Way to think about our children and grandchildren.
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I hadn’t seen this graph before. Looks like we cooled until 1910 and the rise has been pretty consistent since then. I figured the last 20-30 years would have been sharper than that.
 
I hadn’t seen this graph before. Looks like we cooled until 1910 and the rise has been pretty consistent since then. I figured the last 20-30 years would have been sharper than that.

I wonder if that is a result of the few things we’ve done as that timeframe kind of corresponds to climate change becoming a political issue.
 
I wonder if that is a result of the few things we’ve done as that timeframe kind of corresponds to climate change becoming a political issue.
I looked at 1910 to 1940 in that graph and then to 1980 to 2010 and 1990 to 2020. The first one is a little less steep but ignoring single years differences and just trying to average line it, there wasn’t that wild of a difference. I really thought there like be more. What I did notice was more difference year to year than in the early 20th century but when you drew a line through them they blended out more similar.

Those middle years are the mystery, what happened around 1940 to 1970 that had it jerking back and forth like never before?
 
Conventional wisdom is to stay put in your home if a tornado is on the way. However, my aunt and uncle were in the path of the F5 tornado that hit Parkersburg in May of 2008. They lived in a split level house, which means the basement was only 4' below grade. They huddled in an interior bathroom in the basement, but part of the wall hit my aunt in the back of the head, and she lost her life. My uncle has said that if he is ever in a situation like that again (unlikely I know) that he will take his chances and drive away from the storm rather than wait it out at home. And I guess I can't blame him for that.
 
I looked at 1910 to 1940 in that graph and then to 1980 to 2010 and 1990 to 2020. The first one is a little less steep but ignoring single years differences and just trying to average line it, there wasn’t that wild of a difference. I really thought there like be more. What I did notice was more difference year to year than in the early 20th century but when you drew a line through them they blended out more similar.

Those middle years are the mystery, what happened around 1940 to 1970 that had it jerking back and forth like never before?
Pollution reflecting back solar energy.
 
Conventional wisdom is to stay put in your home if a tornado is on the way. However, my aunt and uncle were in the path of the F5 tornado that hit Parkersburg in May of 2008. They lived in a split level house, which means the basement was only 4' below grade. They huddled in an interior bathroom in the basement, but part of the wall hit my aunt in the back of the head, and she lost her life. My uncle has said that if he is ever in a situation like that again (unlikely I know) that he will take his chances and drive away from the storm rather than wait it out at home. And I guess I can't blame him for that.

I'm sorry to hear about your loss. But you bring up an excellent point. In the area where I grew up (and in many other places), the older homes (say pre-mid 1950-ish) were built with shallow basements like that...3-4 ft below grade with the remainder above grade. A tornado could easily take the basement walls down. My grandpa's house, built in the later 1940s, had a nice large cellar for storing food below the shallow basement that was totally under grade (those were pretty safe); our house didn't have one of those. In our area, in the 1960's forward, the basements started going 5-6 ft below grade.
 
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It's been warm in December before. The earth may well be warming very very slowly but, I do not believe it's causing these weather events or that it will destroy us all in a few years as some want us to believe and panic about

Are you older than 12? Anyone with any years on them knows that the weather is completely different now than it was 30 years ago. It's going to be 60+ in NE Wisconsin this week. That will shatter records, but it's normal.
 
It's been warm in December before. The earth may well be warming very very slowly but, I do not believe it's causing these weather events or that it will destroy us all in a few years as some want us to believe and panic about

I'm not talking about our destruction in the next few years. I'm talking about environmental destruction that will harm our children's and grandchildren's future.

I don't know about you, but I have children and grandchildren. I can't think of anything worse than exploiting our environment for our immediate gain, all at the expense of our children's and grandchildren's future. If we don't start acting now to slow down the global warming, scientists pretty much agree that we will pass a tipping point in the not-too-distant future where all humanity will suffer greatly.
 
That's the problem. Like COVID-19, something that shouldn't be political at all has been made political by one particular group of people. Science be damned.

And then the same people are like “keep politics out of my off topic university online message board if someone so much as mentions a President or former President”

It would only be funnier if the school this website is based on had “Science” in its name and their logo was a tornado. Oh, weight.
 
JFC. It’s science, not politics. ******* babies.
That's the problem. Like COVID-19, something that shouldn't be political at all has been made political by one particular group of people. Science be damned.

IDGAF what you call it, all it does is create arguments. If you want to talk about climate change, go to the ******* cave, where it belongs.

This thread is about a horrific, historic storm. Let's focus on that.
 
IDGAF what you call it, all it does is create arguments. If you want to talk about climate change, go to the ******* cave, where it belongs.

This thread is about a horrific, historic storm. Let's focus on that.

And people are rightly talking about the weather patterns that seem to be creating these monster tornadoes….
 
IDGAF what you call it, all it does is create arguments. If you want to talk about climate change, go to the ******* cave, where it belongs.

This thread is about a horrific, historic storm. Let's focus on that.

That's the problem. A conversation about weather and potential changes in climate shouldn't be considered political, but here we are.

Has the location of traditional tornado alley shifted? Has the traditional season shifted? Has the frequency increased?
 
That's the problem. A conversation about weather and potential changes in climate shouldn't be considered political, but here we are.

Has the location of traditional tornado alley shifted? Has the traditional season shifted? Has the frequency increased?
Yes. Maybe. Possibly.

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