Barely qualifying for a bowl game (6-6) after coming off a conference championship and a BCS bowl berth is struggling.
NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones
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Barely qualifying for a bowl game (6-6) after coming off a conference championship and a BCS bowl berth is struggling.
Kansas State's Qb, ratings wise, had his 3rd or 4th best game against all year against us. He did not struggle. 21/29 with 280 yards and 2 td's is not struggling nor looking ahead. He made one big mistake, but it let to no points as our kicker missed the FG. He played well, as did their skill players, lockett and thompson, but they still only scored 21.
I get that your offense very well could be much improved this year with a new coordinator, and it sounds like you have a ton of good skill guys as well. But if you think you will be marching up and down the field on us, i think you will be in for a big disappointment. As i said earlier, i don't know who is going to win the game, but if iowa state is going to win, stopping the Bison O would be a good start, because your 500 + yards and ridiculous stats you had in the last two games last year isn't happening.
I know the line would not be 49, a bit of hyperbole for the wrestling guy. And yes I know they try to get the most even bets on both sides, but they do also have to set it close to what they think the result will be and they have to be good at figuring that out.
That's fine. I get that is most people's opinion. If they played Oklahoma or Texas in the middle of last year, they would have been 2 1/2 and 4 1/2 point underdogs on a neutral field, according to Sagarin, and Vegas usually isn't more than 3-4 points of what Sagarin has. So yeah, neutral field under 5 point underdogs last year? That's the most objective view i can find, and i would say that is competing. Maybe they would have finished .500, or maybe they would have finished 8-2 IDK. They would have been competitive in every game they played though, and after watching the horses up front man handle kansas state on the road, it would have been interesting to see those 4 conference home games. I do KNOW they would NOT be able to compete year and year out with the 63 scholarships and have NO idea how they would do with 85 scholarships. I am not making those predictions, just saying last year's team would have been competitive with anyone in the big 12.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...arin-speaks-north-dakota-state-bison/3645173/
Or maybe Vegas is making the line as such so they can get their hands on all the OIL MONEY ! ! !
My honest opinion, I will tell you that will score based on how young our defense is. I am still waiting on someone to comment me back on how big your line will be but i am assuming that it will be big. That is your advantage. You lost your best CB out there, you are working with a new coach who has not showed how well he has coached being the top dog, there are so many variables that for both of us to say which one will be better. I am also pointing out is that this year will be different. You people do not understand how bad it was on offense. we were so bad in that area because of the way it was ran. I got this on twitter, 48% of our drives were 3 and outs. Ok, you cannot blame that all on the kids, they are athletic enough. What I am saying is that there is better and kids that have playing time. I predicted that score because of the way the confidence is and hungry they sound. They are tired of losing, I can tell. But it is such a wild card for both of us that I cannot say who is going to be better and who won't.
The delusion from Bison fans is as strong here as it is on Bisonville. I think those fans really did just start following football 5 years ago.
Speaking of arrongance...And despite being better at every position the odds makers have you a home underdog to an FCS team. Must be fun to be a cyclone fan. How bad is your program that an FCS team with 63 scholarships, with a 25year old 19000 seat dome, with a tiny coaching salaries budget, from a no-nameconference in a tiny state that lost 11ish starters, its head coach and offensivecoordinator is favored over your team that is in one of the BIG 5 prestigious power conferences with a 50,000 seat stadium, 85 scholarships and a comparatively enormous athletic budget.
Did I say that we were going to curb stomp you? I just simply said that offense will be drastically improved especially when Mangino is coaching us.
See the difference between us and you is that we know we suck in the grand scheme of things. We just are more significant than you. We at least play in the majors, while you guys are playing for triple A championships. Can anyone name who won the championship for Triple A last year?
So where is NDSU's 1st-2nd round draft pick QB that would keep them from sucking in the Big 12?
Well for 1, I would much rather be on our side than yours. Thanks for making me feel even better about ourselves. All that must suck for you.
I didn't write that, and actually i misquoted the article Sagarin would have favored us last year on a neutral field, and as he is pretty close to line with Vegas, there is no way we would have been more than a touchdown Dog on a neutral field. I believe his quote at the end is questioning the intellect of anyone who can't comprehend that. Whatever, last year is last year, but we do have a good defense returning. This will be a low scoring game.
That certainly might be the case. NDSU certainly has some question marks. But I will trust a neutral odds maker over a cyclone fan that asserts that ISU is better at every single position as at least one fan has.
Well the line has done nothing but move towards us so I guess many people aren't so confident in your pee-wee football team from Fargo.
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