New Schedule - Season Prediction Time!!!

twocoach

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Look at who Iowa is bringing in. They have nobody to come even close to replacing Marbles production. Also, it isn't going to bode well for Iowa if Aaron White is going to be thrown into a main scoring roll. Also, no way Nader is suspended by game 8 or 9 into the season. He will be suspended 3 games tops along with Thomas.
Was West Virginia a good team when they spanked ISU @West Virginia last year? And why would White have a problem carrying more of the scoring load? His offensive rating was 17 points better than Niang's last year. His eFG% was 7.5% better than Niang. He gets to the free throw line a ton and shoots very well from there. All reports from the offseason were that he performed well in the skills camps he attended. He's a senior with more than 100 games of experience under his belt. I don't see any reason (other than rivalry) to think he would not be able to handle more in his role next year. Heck, go look at Niang's stats from year one to year two. The additional load resulted in a lower offensive rating, lower eFg%, lower free throw rate, lower fg%, lower 3pt fg%, etc... No one seems to question whether Niang can be counted on to handle the larger role. And I only mentioned Nader because it sounded like you were knocking that kid's ability to be counted on to play basketball because he was immature and got a DUI, not because I though Nader would be unavailable for the Iowa game.
 

awd4cy

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There is entirely too much Iowa discussion in this thread.

We have a great shot to be really good once again. Hopefully we can finish in the top 3 of the Big 12 and avoid any WTF road losses. It'd be great to find a way to pick up a win or two on the road against the other marquee teams in the conference -- @ KU, @ UT, @ OU, @ KSU, @ OSU.

Hopefully we'll have a chance to defend the Big 12 tournament title and get a nice seed in the dance, preferably somewhere other than our opponent's backyard, for a change.

Worth noting that if we go dancing again this year, it will the fourth year in a row, which would be a school record.
Mainly because they are our biggest chance at a loss in the non-conference. I don't think we lose that and I don't see us losing to Arkansas at home. Maybe Arizona State in the November tourney, but I doubt it.
 

Thomasrickj

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Mainly because they are our biggest chance at a loss in the non-conference. I don't think we lose that and I don't see us losing to Arkansas at home. Maybe Arizona State in the November tourney, but I doubt it.
I hope not. Arizona State lost Jahii Carson and will have a tough time replacing such a good player. My money is on Maryland beating them and us playing Maryland.
 

MNCyGuy

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Question for ISU fans, do you like the non con schedule or would you like to see more high profile games?

I could see both sides because a softer non con gives the new guys a chance to gel before getting to Big 12 play.

Most years I would say bring on the higher profile games. I think last season proved that if you have good veteran leadership on your team things can gel very quickly. And even if you do get burned with a couple losses, they don't hurt you so much in basketball and a good team would hopefully use the experience to do their damage in the Big 12 schedule.

That being said, I'm kind of ok with the weak schedule this year just do the McKay situation and the early suspensions for Thomas and Nader.
 

awd4cy

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Was West Virginia a good team when they spanked ISU @West Virginia last year? And why would White have a problem carrying more of the scoring load? His offensive rating was 17 points better than Niang's last year. His eFG% was 7.5% better than Niang. He gets to the free throw line a ton and shoots very well from there. All reports from the offseason were that he performed well in the skills camps he attended. He's a senior with more than 100 games of experience under his belt. I don't see any reason (other than rivalry) to think he would not be able to handle more in his role next year. Heck, go look at Niang's stats from year one to year two. The additional load resulted in a lower offensive rating, lower eFg%, lower free throw rate, lower fg%, lower 3pt fg%, etc... No one seems to question whether Niang can be counted on to handle the larger role. And I only mentioned Nader because it sounded like you were knocking that kid's ability to be counted on to play basketball because he was immature and got a DUI, not because I though Nader would be unavailable for the Iowa game.
I think it's very possible that his percentages drop some while overall ppg remains similar or even increases slightly. I'm not saying White isn't a great basketball player. Guys like Gessell, Uthoff, Woodbury have shown time and time again that they cannot be counted on on the offensive end. I think Iowa is decent, but only an NIT team. And yes, I understand bringing up WVU. I'm not saying we don't have the potential to go on the road and lose big, but it's very low likely hood. WVU had better scorers last year that were extremely hot that night.
 

cemarclone

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We are limited in the sense that nobody wants to play in Hilton

Yes, unfortuantely, it is probably even worse than when Johnny was here. It is real hard to schedule a good team to play in Hilton. They know the reputation of Hilton, and for most big name teams, they don't have the balls to come to Hilton. ISU is not ducking on Big name teams, they are ducking us. Fred specifially asked to play at Kentucky in the SEC challenge, and unfortunately, the conference gave that to Texas, so Fred clearly has no fear to play any team anywhere. We end up with South Carolina in New York mainly because they will not come to Hilton. Another alternative is to go the tournament route, and ISU just has not broken through to the elite status that gets you into the biggest tournaments, although ISU is banging real hard on the door.

Unless ISU can get some kind of deal to bring in a biggie like NC for a national game in Hilton and then a return to NC, it is going to be real tough to get quality teams into Hilton. If I was a big name team, I would prefer to go to KU and play then come to Hilton and play. KU is tough, but not impossible like Hilton.
 

MNCyGuy

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Yes, unfortuantely, it is probably even worse than when Johnny was here. It is real hard to schedule a good team to play in Hilton. They know the reputation of Hilton, and for most big name teams, they don't have the balls to come to Hilton. ISU is not ducking on Big name teams, they are ducking us. Fred specifially asked to play at Kentucky in the SEC challenge, and unfortunately, the conference gave that to Texas, so Fred clearly has no fear to play any team anywhere. We end up with South Carolina in New York mainly because they will not come to Hilton. Another alternative is to go the tournament route, and ISU just has not broken through to the elite status that gets you into the biggest tournaments, although ISU is banging real hard on the door.

Unless ISU can get some kind of deal to bring in a biggie like NC for a national game in Hilton and then a return to NC, it is going to be real tough to get quality teams into Hilton. If I was a big name team, I would prefer to go to KU and play then come to Hilton and play. KU is tough, but not impossible like Hilton.

I can homer with the best of them, but the reason team's go to Allen and not Hilton is because you are almost guaranteed that it will be a "good loss" against KU, whereas ISU does not yet have that prestigious reputation. It is not because the Hilton homecourt is feared that much more than Allen Fieldhouse.
 

awd4cy

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Yes, unfortuantely, it is probably even worse than when Johnny was here. It is real hard to schedule a good team to play in Hilton. They know the reputation of Hilton, and for most big name teams, they don't have the balls to come to Hilton. ISU is not ducking on Big name teams, they are ducking us. Fred specifially asked to play at Kentucky in the SEC challenge, and unfortunately, the conference gave that to Texas, so Fred clearly has no fear to play any team anywhere. We end up with South Carolina in New York mainly because they will not come to Hilton. Another alternative is to go the tournament route, and ISU just has not broken through to the elite status that gets you into the biggest tournaments, although ISU is banging real hard on the door.

Unless ISU can get some kind of deal to bring in a biggie like NC for a national game in Hilton and then a return to NC, it is going to be real tough to get quality teams into Hilton. If I was a big name team, I would prefer to go to KU and play then come to Hilton and play. KU is tough, but not impossible like Hilton.
You are aware of KU's record at home, right?
 

cemarclone

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We are going to lose a few along the way, but I could easily predict right now that the National Title game will be Iowa State against our nemisis, Kansas. I love the way Fred has his guys ready for the Dance, they are mentally prepared for the dance. What teams stand between ISU and the NT? KU, UK, UConn, Arizona, and possibly UT. If Uconn is the best the country can put up against us last year, I like our chances if we stay healthy.
 

cemarclone

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WV is in some real trouble with so many people leaving. Also, WV kicked out butts last year, so Fred and the team need no more motivation for that game.
 

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Yes, unfortuantely, it is probably even worse than when Johnny was here. It is real hard to schedule a good team to play in Hilton. They know the reputation of Hilton, and for most big name teams, they don't have the balls to come to Hilton. ISU is not ducking on Big name teams, they are ducking us. Fred specifially asked to play at Kentucky in the SEC challenge, and unfortunately, the conference gave that to Texas, so Fred clearly has no fear to play any team anywhere. We end up with South Carolina in New York mainly because they will not come to Hilton. Another alternative is to go the tournament route, and ISU just has not broken through to the elite status that gets you into the biggest tournaments, although ISU is banging real hard on the door.

Unless ISU can get some kind of deal to bring in a biggie like NC for a national game in Hilton and then a return to NC, it is going to be real tough to get quality teams into Hilton. If I was a big name team, I would prefer to go to KU and play then come to Hilton and play. KU is tough, but not impossible like Hilton.

:wideeyed: Trolling twocoach... I hope
 

CloneZone13

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Question for ISU fans, do you like the non con schedule or would you like to see more high profile games?

I could see both sides because a softer non con gives the new guys a chance to gel before getting to Big 12 play.

Meh, playing Michigan last year was awesome, but the Big XII round robin is hard enough, and is a harder schedule than most other non Big XII teams play, so I'm fine with a lighter non-con schedule.

We obviously have the talent to go undefeated in the non-con, but I do think we drop a game somewhere. Gonna be a great season!
 

Rabbuk

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yall already know.
 

cemarclone

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I am very aware of KU's record at home. I know the beware the Phog. It is definitely one of the best places to play in college baskteball. But teams go in there and win. Heaven forbid, Iowa even went in there and one fairly easily. On the intimidation scale, I give it a 9.5. I give Hilton a 10 on that scale. The difference is that those KU fans paying 50K to sit in the lower bowl are a little more laid back than cyclone fans. Everyone in the business knows that Hilton can rattle your brain like no other arena. The magic is real.
 

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