Obesity

[RING4CY]

I'm in the group of weighing yourself every day is absurd. Your weight can fluctuate up to 5 pounds a day. Weighing yourself every day doesn't always allow for accurate numbers.

I weigh myself once a week.

 

[Bobber]

couldnt agree more. if you are losing more than maybe 5-6 pounds a week than theres a good chance youre starving yourself. unless you happen to be on one of those insane workout regiments and actually eating healthy i suppose

I think about 2-3 pounds is about all you can lose in a healthy way. You might lose a little more at first as you get water out of your system, but 2 pounds of fat or 7,000 calories in a week is a lot.

 

[LindenCy]

I'm 5'10" and am around 135-140 lbs (depending on the day) and 21 years old and I can not gain an ounce to save my life. Does this mean I'm blessed or will it catch up with me sometime? I mean I have tried lifting weights, taking weight gainer and eating a ton. I want to weigh around 160-170 lbs.

I will say being really skinny is kick *** at times, like when running, jumping, making quick lateral movements, dancing and basically doing anything that requires agility or athletic movements. But I would also like to be able to defend myself...

As for obese people, I don't have much respect for people who let themselves go like that. They also show that they don't really respect themselves either. If I ever got to be more than 170lbs, I would do anything possible to stop gaining weight because I respect myself.

I would consider yourself blessed, but also know that you may fill out more still, depending on genetics and the like. If you want to defend yourself, I recommend learning some martial arts, grappling, or something useful. Big doesn't always mean good in a fight. I would rather be strong than big.

 

[hawkeyeh8r]

I think about 2-3 pounds is about all you can lose in a healthy way. You might lose a little more at first as you get water out of your system, but 2 pounds of fat or 7,000 calories in a week is a lot.

ya i was saying that more for obese people that are just starting the program. after maybe a month or 2 that would be incredibly high. a workout program i used to do burned about 2000-2500 calories in a 45-60 minute workout. so if you ate healthier and dropped your caloric intake to about 1500 calories or so you could burn 3500-7000 easily in one week if you did the workout at full pace the whole time. only problem is that it was almost impossible to do it at 100% for more than maybe the first 15 minutes

 

[cycoOJfan89]

People eat terribly in this country.

I'll get lunch with my co-workers quite a bit, and last week for lunch, two of my coworkers (who are big guys) got a steak sandwich and a bowl of soup. The steak on the sandwich was probably 8 oz of beef covered in cheese, and the bowl of soup was plenty. I myself just got a bowl of soup and was plenty full. I have no idea how they put down that AND a steak sandwich.

I don't know how people eat so much in one sit down either... I do however think we have a mindset issue. How many times have you been out with your friends to get something to eat and if you don't finish they make fun of you? Or they will brag about how much they ate? If I go to Panchero's for example and do not finish a burrito that is over 1 pound, my friends will call me a wuss for not finishing. Why is it so awesome to be able to eat a lot? It's bad for you and more expensive!

 

[Clone83]

There is an article on the front page of washingtonpost.com right now on the same topic, about a county in Kentucky. A lot of the same points are brought up.

 

[cydonn]

I think about 2-3 pounds is about all you can lose in a healthy way. You might lose a little more at first as you get water out of your system, but 2 pounds of fat or 7,000 calories in a week is a lot.

I watched the documentary Food, Inc recently. That is a real eye opener about the food industry and what we eat. The book In Defense of Food is also a good read.

 

[capitalcityguy]

Sugar is the problem. You could get rid of corn syrup, and replace it with cane sugar or sugar beets and you'd have the same problem..

No, because unlike high fructose corn syrup, sugar is found naturally in nature.

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HFCS is not the run of the mill corn syrup found on the grocery store shelf, nor is it the fructose naturally found in fruits and honey. HFCS is a highly refined clear liquid derived from corn starch. Food manufactures love to use it because of its long shelf life an it’s relative low cost.

Why is HFCS Bad for us?​

Since HFCS’s widespread introduction in the 1980’s North American obesity rates have skyrocketed. Obesity has been linked to may heath issues including heart disease and many forms of cancer. When HFCS is ingested, it travels straight to the liver which turns the sugary liquid into fat, and unlike other carbohydrates HFCS does not cause the pancreas to produce insulin; which acts as a hunger quenching signal to the brain. So we get stuck in a vicious cycle, eating food that gets immediately stored as fat and never feeling full.​

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Read more: Dangers of High Fructose Corn Syrup | HealthMad

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[Bobber]

I'm 5'10" and am around 135-140 lbs (depending on the day) and 21 years old and I can not gain an ounce to save my life. Does this mean I'm blessed or will it catch up with me sometime? I mean I have tried lifting weights, taking weight gainer and eating a ton. I want to weigh around 160-170 lbs.

I will say being really skinny is kick *** at times, like when running, jumping, making quick lateral movements, dancing and basically doing anything that requires agility or athletic movements. But I would also like to be able to defend myself...

As for obese people, I don't have much respect for people who let themselves go like that. They also show that they don't really respect themselves either. If I ever got to be more than 170lbs, I would do anything possible to stop gaining weight because I respect myself.

You are light, but I was 6'1" and about 175 at your stage of the game and could eat about what ever I wanted and not gain. Funny thing is each decade you add to your life, it seems to get easier to put on weight(mostly because you keep eating like you did when you were 21). At my greatest I had put on nearly 50 pounds from my college weight after being out of school for two decades.

You know don't get too hard on some of these heavy folks. Some people just naturally put on weight easier than others or have some depression issues which cause them to eat more. Pity is probably a better word for me to describe some of their situations.

 

[Bobber]

No, because unlike high fructose corn syrup, sugar is found naturally in nature.

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It's made out of corn. How much more natural do you get then that? Why do you think Sweet Corn tastes so good?

Cane Sugar is derived from Sugar Cane which is a grass just like Corn.

Read more: Dangers of High Fructose Corn Syrup | HealthMad

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[cycoOJfan89]

You are light, but I was 6'1" and about 175 at your stage of the game and could eat about what ever I wanted and not gain. Funny thing is each decade you add to your life, it seems to get easier to put on weight(mostly because you keep eating like you did when you were 21). At my greatest I had put on nearly 50 pounds from my college weight after being out of school for two decades.

You know don't get too hard on some of these heavy folks. Some people just naturally put on weight easier than others or have some depression issues which cause them to eat more. Pity is probably a better word for me to describe some of their situations.

I wasn't saying 170 lbs is the cut off for everybody, just for me because of my personal frame. I wasn't referring to all overweight people when I said I have no respect for people who let themselves go, just the really obese ones. You look at some people and think 'my God! There is no way that is all due to genetics...'

 

[RandomFan]

Placing the blame on corn is about as big of a cop-out as there is. People need to eat reasonably and be physically active, period. But so many people try to find someone or something to blame rather than taking responsibility for there own actions.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I wasn't saying 170 lbs is the cut off for everybody, just for me because of my personal frame. I wasn't referring to all overweight people when I said I have no respect for people who let themselves go, just the really obese ones. You look at some people and think 'my God! There is no way that is all due to genetics...'

My deal is I can eat or drink whatever I want and not gain a pound but when I start eating less or better, losing is a *****. It is odd really, at least to me. Hopefully I start working less hours here and can get the time to start a consistent exercise program.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Placing the blame on corn is about as big of a cop-out as there is. People need to eat reasonably and be physically active, period. But so many people try to find someone or something to blame rather than taking responsibility for there own actions.

That is my current problem with society. It is never and individuals own fault.

 

[Marc936]

This.

I'm on a big workout/diet plan right now because was very unhappy with my blood pressure.

I've dropped 20 pounds in about 60 days and it's not rocket science. I've been exercising about 6 days a week an hour an day. I've also been watching my diet particuarly calories and sugars.

Blaming corn is stupid. I had three ears of corn tonight for dinner and total calories was 360. One Big Mac in comparison will be 540 calories and if you throw in fries and a sugared drink, add another 710. That one meal at McDonalds is almost more calories then I eat in a whole day now.

People just need to exercise more, eat less, and be smarter about what they eat.

P.S. My blood pressure was down to 104 over 62 today which is excellent.

corn is partly the problem as much as you dont want to admit. High fructose corn syrup is in almost everything.

and only 1250 calories in a day? thats horrible for you...






i think people try to over complicate things in losing weight. Its really simple, eat when your hungry, stop eating when your satisfied. Choose healthier options, IE water instead of coke, an apple instead of cheesecake, veggies instead of fries.

Its not brain surgery, you dont have to look into calories, or into fat/carb/protein content if you are doing that. Thats only needed if your actually trying to do something with it (bulk up, cut bodyfat as quickly as possible).

The more in depth you go into dieting, the more likely your going to quit at it.

 

[capitalcityguy]

That is my current problem with society. It is never and individuals own fault.

If only this issue was that simple. It is not...and that is coming from a personal responsiblity type of guy.

 

[cycoOJfan89]

That is my current problem with society. It is never and individuals own fault.

Agree 100%. I could be wrong but I think I remember a lawsuit a few years back against McDonald's where the plaintiff was placing the blame of their childrens' obesity on McDonald's. Don't take your kid to freaking McDonald's everyday, problem solved.

"In August, a suit filed by the parents of two girls claimed that McDonald's and two of its restaurants in the Bronx failed to disclose clearly and conspicuously the ingredients and effects of its food, much of which is high in fat, salt, sugar and cholesterol.

The plaintiffs argued that McDonald's should therefore be held accountable for the girls' obesity, heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, and elevated cholesterol.
The girls are Jazlyn Bradley and Ashley Pelman. Bradley, 19, is 5 feet, 6 inches tall, and weighs 270 pounds. Pelman, 14, is 4-foot-10 and 170 pounds"

That is just bad parenting, not McDonald's fault... But McDonald's was just easier to blame than themselves!

Here is the link to the article... makes me sick!
U.S. judge dismisses obesity suit vs. McDonald's - Feb. 17, 2003

 

[Marc936]

My deal is I can eat or drink whatever I want and not gain a pound but when I start eating less or better, losing is a *****. It is odd really, at least to me. Hopefully I start working less hours here and can get the time to start a consistent exercise program.

either your doing it wrong, or you don't spend enough time doing it.


the whole i can eat whatever i want and not gain a pound is bs, drink a gallon of milk a day along with your normal intake and i promise you pounds will stack up

also you can spread out your food intake, stop nom'ing on carbs so much and you weight will go down as well.


weight can be manipulated pretty well by anyone, no one wants to admit it though

 

[Tre4ISU]

If only this issue was that simple. It is not...and that is coming from a personal responsiblity type of guy.

In personal issues such as obesity it is that simple. Sure there are health issues that may lead to obesity that could be out of the control of a person, but most of the time that's not the case. Sure, in life there are things that may be out of an individual's control. I understand that but in the majority of cases it falls on the individual.

 

[temperflare]

I like the people who are heading to the exercise facility...and use the elevator instead of the stairs.

I get to watch obese people take the elevator up one floor when the stairs are right there. Its worse when you see them get on the elevator with food to go and carrying a diet Mt. Dew. I just want to say to that person(s), "You are 200 lbs. overweight, eating a 500 calorie fat burger, and riding the elevator up one floor when the stairs are right freaking there. Who are you trying to kid by drinking a diet soda?"

These are the people that are driving up the costs of our healthcare benefits each year.