Obesity

I'm just kind of bagging on one woman though, because I know for a fact that I'll walk into the office later this morning and the first thing I'll hear is her saying, "I've got a case of the Mondays!", who the hell actually says that.

By 8:00 it will be, "I wish it was Friday!". I get it, your lazy as ****, just quit your job and take your jowels with you.
 
I stick with my turkey sandwhich, apple, and water.
I can't stand turkey itself, but I've switched over to eating Johnsonville turkey cheddar brats and ground turkey instead of ground beef when I grill. I'm starting to remember just how good chicken is.
 
Good lord it is out of control. I swear you can't go anywhere and not be outnumbered by morbidly obese people anymore. I'm sure most of these folks are good people, but good lord it's just getting ridiculous.


Try out Adventureland for size if you want a good slice of obesenation.
 
I can't stand turkey itself, but I've switched over to eating Johnsonville turkey cheddar brats and ground turkey instead of ground beef when I grill. I'm starting to remember just how good chicken is.

I love me some marinated, grilled chicken. I'm not a brat guy myself, but I switched to ground turkey a few months back as well. Not going to lie, I was suprised by how good it actually is. I think I prefer it over beef.
 
I love me some marinated, grilled chicken. I'm not a brat guy myself, but I switched to ground turkey a few months back as well. Not going to lie, I was suprised by how good it actually is. I think I prefer it over beef.
Turkey Bacon-Turkey Burger on the grill. A little BBQ sauce to top it off...

I'm wanting to fire up the grill at 1 in the morning.
 
We have a group of gals in the office we refer to as the sweat hogs. There isn't a pastry on the planet they could refuse.
 
Dear Mississippi,

Best way to lose weight:

1) Be active. Doesn't have to be 4-6 hours a day. Just 30-60 minutes.

2) Eat at home. More of having it your way at home than at Burger King.

There is a definite correlation between wealth and obesity. The poorest states also tend to be the fattest. Walk around the supermarket sometime and see what the cheapest things to eat are. Mac and cheese will feed a couple of people for a 1.50 or so. Hot dogs can be found for a dollar or two. Soda can be bought cheaper than water or milk.

Now go price the same meal to feed two with healthy alternatives. Do that for 3 meals a day and add the bills up at the end of a month. It makes a significant difference.

I have definitely noticed my grocery bill going up since I started living a more healthy lifestyle. I think part of the answer is to create a financial incentive for people to consume more healthy foods. I don't know exactly in what form that comes, but I don't think that the rest of the public should be forced to pay (through health care costs) for the poor health decisions of the growing (literally) masses.

Another one of Mississippi's problems is that their grocery stores (at least the ones I went to) have a pretty awful selection of healthy foods in the first place (since people don't tend to buy them). You can find them, but you REALLY have to look hard.

I'll also chime in on the weighing every day debate. I weigh myself every day. I just like to know what my body is doing. I do it the same way, every day, at roughly the same time.

I don't get too worked up about things if I'm up a few lbs, but I will sometimes get a bit excited if I'm down. I've found my normal range is anywhere from 200-210 or so, and I can fluctuate up to 7 lbs in the course of 24 hours. I usually lose 2-3 lbs overnight.

What people tend to forget is that your body is something like 60-70% water. If I've had a lot of salty foods (and I love sodium way more than sugar), I find that I tend to weigh more the next day or two. I would bet that going on a low sodium diet would cause most people to lose at least 10 lbs in a month if they changed nothing else.
 
There is a definite correlation between wealth and obesity. The poorest states also tend to be the fattest. Walk around the supermarket sometime and see what the cheapest things to eat are. Mac and cheese will feed a couple of people for a 1.50 or so. Hot dogs can be found for a dollar or two. Soda can be bought cheaper than water or milk.

Now go price the same meal to feed two with healthy alternatives. Do that for 3 meals a day and add the bills up at the end of a month. It makes a significant difference.

I have definitely noticed my grocery bill going up since I started living a more healthy lifestyle. I think part of the answer is to create a financial incentive for people to consume more healthy foods. I don't know exactly in what form that comes, but I don't think that the rest of the public should be forced to pay (through health care costs) for the poor health decisions of the growing (literally) masses.

Another one of Mississippi's problems is that their grocery stores (at least the ones I went to) have a pretty awful selection of healthy foods in the first place (since people don't tend to buy them). You can find them, but you REALLY have to look hard.

I'll also chime in on the weighing every day debate. I weigh myself every day. I just like to know what my body is doing. I do it the same way, every day, at roughly the same time.

I don't get too worked up about things if I'm up a few lbs, but I will sometimes get a bit excited if I'm down. I've found my normal range is anywhere from 200-210 or so, and I can fluctuate up to 7 lbs in the course of 24 hours. I usually lose 2-3 lbs overnight.

What people tend to forget is that your body is something like 60-70% water. If I've had a lot of salty foods (and I love sodium way more than sugar), I find that I tend to weigh more the next day or two. I would bet that going on a low sodium diet would cause most people to lose at least 10 lbs in a month if they changed nothing else.


wait what? hyvee's current sale is 3 12 packs for $10, thats $6.67 for a 24 pack on sale. a 36 pack for water is 4 bucks, water is cheaper, i'm not even putting in the gallon size considering its 79 cents a gallon (29 if you refill it), compared to $4 for 4 liters , which is equivalent to a gallon of milk

for the cost of hotdogs and what you get, you can easily get a whole chicken (drumsticks are even 99 cents a lb), and get more food out of it thats healthier and cheaper.

you can get 16 oz of frozen veggies as much as a box of mac and cheese, healthier, and more filling too.


its not that fast food is cheaper, its simply easier to make, and people are too lazy to make food.



hell i had steak everyday for 4 days in a row with corn, greenbeans and asparagus and a 2 lightly buttered toasts. I calculated it and it costs me literally $3.17 for each meal i made. Thats a damn good price considering the food i got out of it. Its cheaper to get a huge sirloin and cut steak sizes yourself, hell go to sams club and get $50 worth of flank steak if you want, you can get around 40 peices out of it.

one thing living on my own has taught me, i can make better food, for a lot cheaper. I remember before i kept spending around $7-10 everytime i went out to eat for crappy burgers at culvers/burger king, and eating out at cheesecake factory/bww and stuff and blow $30 on myself alone.








edit: i think the roll on more obese people being poorer is simply because they are uneducated, they lack restraint. Not to be racist but you ever wonder where the stereotype came from that black people are impulse buyers? Its not only black people, its all poor people. Just there is a higher percentage of black poverty in cities compared to anything else. Poorer people are impulsive to get immediate rewards, soda tastes good compared to water, mac and cheese is more of a comfort food vs broccoli, fried foods have more flavor than a lot of baked foods. People are willing to pay more for the "feel good now" affect.
 
Last edited:
...its not that fast food is cheaper, its simply easier to make, and people are too lazy to make food. QUOTE]

This is true. Think of all of the food options that are out there now. When I was a kid (back in the late 1900's) going out to eat (fast food or even a regular sit-down place) was not an everyday thing. Now I know many people that 95% or more of their meals come from a restaurant. Meals are a little too convienient now.

Soda did not use to be an everyday thing either. Remember what it was like before free refills in a restaurant? When I was in high school soda was not allowed during school hours and was only sold during sporting events, etc. I do not think this is the case anymore.
 
wait what? hyvee's current sale is 3 12 packs for $10, thats $6.67 for a 24 pack on sale. a 36 pack for water is 4 bucks, water is cheaper, i'm not even putting in the gallon size considering its 79 cents a gallon (29 if you refill it), compared to $4 for 4 liters , which is equivalent to a gallon of milk

for the cost of hotdogs and what you get, you can easily get a whole chicken (drumsticks are even 99 cents a lb), and get more food out of it thats healthier and cheaper.

you can get 16 oz of frozen veggies as much as a box of mac and cheese, healthier, and more filling too.


its not that fast food is cheaper, its simply easier to make, and people are too lazy to make food.



hell i had steak everyday for 4 days in a row with corn, greenbeans and asparagus and a 2 lightly buttered toasts. I calculated it and it costs me literally $3.17 for each meal i made. Thats a damn good price considering the food i got out of it. Its cheaper to get a huge sirloin and cut steak sizes yourself, hell go to sams club and get $50 worth of flank steak if you want, you can get around 40 peices out of it.

one thing living on my own has taught me, i can make better food, for a lot cheaper. I remember before i kept spending around $7-10 everytime i went out to eat for crappy burgers at culvers/burger king, and eating out at cheesecake factory/bww and stuff and blow $30 on myself alone.

Well water is technically free, for the most part. The point is that soda tastes good, and is cheap enough to not be prohibitively expensive for most people. If water is a Toyota Yarus, soda is an Escalade that costs 1k more.

3.17 per person for a family of 4 is almost 13 bucks a meal. If you can feed the same family for 5 bucks (which isn't too hard to do with a couple of boxes of your favorite boxed meal some low grade meat and butter and whatnot), that's 7 dollars a day you're saving. Almost 50 dollars a week, and maybe 200 dollars a month. For poor families that's a lot of money. Hell, for middle class families that's a lot of money.

I'm not saying it's not possible to eat cheap and healthy, it's just much harder. Is some of it being lazy? Sure. Maybe even most of it. But when faced with eating like crap and being able to afford an iPhone, and eating healthy and having to play with sticks in the front yard, which one do you think our current culture favors, or even promotes?

There have also been a couple of studies done that compare the physiological feeling of eating fatty foods packed with simple sugars with doing drugs, and a lot of the same cravings are triggered.

I would also postulate that the south is generally fatter because a lot of their traditional foods and meals are very unhealthy for people with a sedentary lifestyle (watch Paula Dean cook sometime). Eating like a farmhand is great if you're a farmhand - hell it's essential - but if your'e not a farmhand, you're going to get fat.
 
Ground turkey has the exact same amount of calories as ground beef.

I had read it on this board and assumed it was someone who was biased because they raised beef, but I checked it out the next time I was in the grocery store, and sure enough it was true. Which is kind of a bummer, as I like ground turkey.
 
8 pages of opinions and it doesn't sound like one fat person(maybe I'm the only one) has chimed in but let me be the first.

I'm fat!

I like to eat. I like cake, beer, chocolate, bbq, etc. My wife is an excellent cook who cooks us a great meal every night and when we go out to eat it's not to eat salad.


I probably weigh 40lbs more than what I should but I'm not going to stress out over it. I could exercise more but I prefer to watch TV and play on the PC. I go to the gym about 3 times a week and could probably run further than 99% of the people on CF (just not fast).

I know my problem is too many calories going in and not enough going out. I once lost 30lbs when I was younger and I liked the results but I was constantly worrying about what I ate. At this point in my life I'd rather just be 40lbs over weight and not micro-manage what I eat. I think overall I'm relatively healthy but maybe I'm cutting 5 years off my life by being overweight. So I'm going to die at 85 instead of 90. Good, I have no urge to live to 90.

Has being 40lbs overweight stopped me from doing anything? I can't think of anything. I don't wear wife beaters or speedo's. I'm more likely to sweat. The only thing I could think of is that I would like to buy an MV Agusta sport bike but I'd probably look rather silly and be uncomfortable so I guess that's one thing I regret. I've been happily with the same woman for the last 15 years and before that I didn't seem to have a problem meeting woman (both big and small).

BTW-To the person who can eat anything and still remain skinny. Be careful. I went to my 20 year reunion and the guy we called "bones" has put on about 80lbs. It's weird because if you looked at his legs you'd still think he weighed 140lbs but above that it's not pretty.
 
I have always eaten and drank everything that I like and in what ever quantities I prefer. However my fetish in life is too work out/exercise like crazy. I exercise a minimum of one hour per day and look forward to exercising (running, swimming, bicycling, etc.). I have never been overweight and don't ever see myself having that problem.

It is a matter of priorities. I don't watch television because it bores me. The time I spend exercising is less than what the average person spends watching TV.
 
I think it's good practice to weigh yourself everyday. That way you can hold yourself accountable and you can catch any fluctuations before they get too out of hand.

Of course I suppose some folks just don't care what they look like.

I don't care too much what I look like. I do care about being healthy and I think people get way, way to caught up in what they look like.
 
Ground turkey has the exact same amount of calories as ground beef.

I had read it on this board and assumed it was someone who was biased because they raised beef, but I checked it out the next time I was in the grocery store, and sure enough it was true. Which is kind of a bummer, as I like ground turkey.

Needs to be ground turkey breast, not ground turkey. Big difference.
 
I always laugh about the people who describe our food system as unsafe when the two biggest health issues in this country are obesity and the increase of extended age. Dementia /Altizhemers was not a serious concern in decades past but with better medicine, food etc. people live longer and now we haave issues related to "living too long". Yeah, people are overweight and on average more than a little. But I expect that all the fatties will live longer than the generation before them. My point is that "corn" does not kill people. I read recently that the average male in the USA gains 50 lbs. in his lifetime post high school and I think that is generally accurate. On average, that is not going to kill anybody. The obese are different. My point is there is a difference between fat and obese. dmclone has a valid point.
 
Regarding weighing yourself everyday, I maintain it is good practice. You get a feel for your body. You learn what is a normal range for you to weigh in the morning, midday, evening, etc. Can adjust your intake if necessary (up or down). For example, I usually have a snack in the evening, but I will weigh myself beforehand and if I am near the upper end or above the upper end of what I like to weigh, I will either hold off or eat something very light.
I also exercise daily (have for 21yrs) and do my best to eat pretty much the same diet each day (breakfast and lunch for sure but dinner usually varies).

Genetics do play a role for sure and it is easier for some, but there is no reason to let yourself get out of hand. Anyone can control that with relative ease IMO.
 
Regarding weighing yourself everyday, I maintain it is good practice. You get a feel for your body. You learn what is a normal range for you to weigh in the morning, midday, evening, etc. Can adjust your intake if necessary (up or down). For example, I usually have a snack in the evening, but I will weigh myself beforehand and if I am near the upper end or above the upper end of what I like to weigh, I will either hold off or eat something very light.
I also exercise daily (have for 21yrs) and do my best to eat pretty much the same diet each day (breakfast and lunch for sure but dinner usually varies).

Genetics do play a role for sure and it is easier for some, but there is no reason to let yourself get out of hand. Anyone can control that with relative ease IMO.

I like to weigh myself daily as well. I've gotten to the point where I can tell before I even step on the scale if I'll be up a pound or 2 or down a pound or 2. It is a way to calibrate how you feel about your weight. If things are trending up, then I back food and calories down. I always exercise.

Differet strokes for different folks, though.