*** Official #1 Baylor Vs IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

cycloneML

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I mean I’d like to agree with this because I don’t think firing prohm is the solution. But of course he didn’t. He said that because they needed him to say that.

jsb brought her chess pieces to this checkers match
 
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it was really weird last night when I shut off the tv and said to my wife...

"Well, it's a good thing we're a football school."
 
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Tyrese needs to be tougher. He is such a *****

Nah, he's not. His game is predicated on getting everyone on the floor involved. Look at Lonzo Ball this year for the Pelicans. He's playing outstanding ball without being a dominant scorer. When Tyrese's supporting cast is mostly non-B12 caliber (besides Bolton) it's a recipe for disaster. Think how he'd look if he was Kansas' pg, he'd average a double-double (not a triple double because KU bigs actually rebound). Nixon and Jacobson are 9/10th man at best on any sort of competent B12 roster, Grill looks absolutely terrified to even be on the court and the one player who can shoot reasonably well and make nice cuts to the basket is riding the pine for whatever reason.
 

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I don't think anyone expected us to win. Its the way we lost that has people upset. Prohm is very predictable and doesn't adapt. We had a promising lineup against Auburn and never tried it once tonight. Why? Lewis played 2 meaningless minutes...why? Nixon and Jacobsen continue to get significant minutes and continue to be terrible. Why do they keep playing? This isn't the first time a Prohm coached team has displayed weird lineup issues.
Agree completely. Question, did Prohm get asked why he refused to play Lewis? Surely a reporter asked this right??
 

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Regardless of steve's line-ups, coaching, etc. its pretty amazing that:

5 returning players basically didn't improve at all: Lewis, Griffin, Solo/Jake/Conditt
4 recruits: 0-4, 2 transfered before the season even started and we're getting nothing from jackson and grill
1 transfer: nixon, not ready for b12 ball

we're a mess right now.

i know its not proper CF ettiquette to criticize players, but they're all struggling horribly
They are struggling due to poor coaching.
 
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We need shooters. So many open shots missed this year it hurts. Reminds me of Alabama basketball the last decade.

This coaching staff dearly needs a shooting specialist.
 

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Nah, he's not. His game is predicated on getting everyone on the floor involved. Look at Lonzo Ball this year for the Pelicans. He's playing outstanding ball without being a dominant scorer. When Tyrese's supporting cast is mostly non-B12 caliber (besides Bolton) it's a recipe for disaster. Think how he'd look if he was Kansas' pg, he'd average a double-double (not a triple double because KU bigs actually rebound). Nixon and Jacobson are 9/10th man at best on any sort of competent B12 roster, Grill looks absolutely terrified to even be on the court and the one player who can shoot reasonably well and make nice cuts to the basket is riding the pine for whatever reason.

I agree with this....but can we stop using 'B12-caliber' like it's something different than any other Power 6?

This is a roster that looks more like ISU usually looks in football compared to even average teams. Couple of good players here and there but as a whole just looks much less.

It's too bad that Grill hasn't gained any steam. It's there.
 

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So, if Haliburton were to return (I know he's 99% not), would this team be better based only on the two seniors leaving? Or would Prohm still put them in the starting lineup even if they weren't on the team any longer?

The only thing that I can come up as to why Nixon and Jacobsen are starting is that Prohm must have used a sharpie on the white board listing the lineup and he doesn't want to admit it. Otherwise, I've got no idea.

Sharpie on the white board, lol
 

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I mean I’d like to agree with this because I don’t think firing prohm is the solution. But of course he didn’t. He said that because they needed him to say that.
Believe what you want, I believe what Jamie said. Perhaps your close personal relationship with Fred gives you information I do not have access to.
 

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I see Drew brought out the "he's a nice guy" argument for Prohm last night. I remember when that started for McDermott.

I don’t remember that in McDermotts era. I remember Jamie’s vote of confidence press conference. Drew’s comments were unprompted, plus didn’t we just beat them in KC last year and have multiple wins and Very close losses over the years? It’s not like it’s been years of arse kicking by them and he gets the “he’s a good coach” spiel by Drew. We lost, they are big, smart and they play their roles to a T. We are none of those things right now. Prohm gets this year, reset the roster, get his recruiting class in and hopefully the key pieces moving forward takes steps forward. All this year does is shrink his margin into next year.
 
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No he didn’t. Giving his best after being hired and saying that he will do a good job =/= recommending him for the job.
“So during our discussions,” Pollard said, “I said to Fred ‘OK, so if you leave, who’s out there that I ought to be thinking about?’ The first person out of his mouth was Steve Prohm.