*** Official #12 Baylor vs IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

MJ271

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Thanks for this.

Analytics and sabremetrics or whatever the hell they are called can be fun to look at, but they don't tell the whole story. GK was one of the best players on the floor yesterday, and we wouldn't have won without him. Sometimes it's just that simple.
And I would call myself a big fan of analytics. I think the team level advanced statistics are solid, and I think the player level component statistics are good (like all of the rate statistics, true shooting percentage, etc.). But especially when comparing to a sport like baseball, it's just really difficult to measure a player's impact when team performance relies so much on everyone collectively.
 

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Big Rob was big cringe yesterday. That move where he ended up pinning himself under the basket and decided to shoot anyway, getting his shot blocked by the rim, made me feel kind of bad for him. Love it when he plays within himself, but when he tries to be a hero sometimes, I just have to do my best not to avert my eyes

Certainly not his best game by a long shot, but those five points he did get were absolutely huge for when they happened.

I think the more he thinks, with the pump fakes and what not, the worse he is offensively. He just needs to go up with the ball strong instead of trying the finesse stuff. He's certainly not a finesse kind of post player.
 

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Big Rob was big cringe yesterday. That move where he ended up pinning himself under the basket and decided to shoot anyway, getting his shot blocked by the rim, made me feel kind of bad for him. Love it when he plays within himself, but when he tries to be a hero sometimes, I just have to do my best not to avert my eyes
Lol, watching the recording now and just saw that. We must really turn it on in the second half because they first 12-13 minutes are difficult to watch.
 
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Well officiated game yesterday overall. Any complaints about it is nitpicking.
It was decently done for most of the game but there were a couple of stretches that were horrendous. From the 16 minute mark to the 12 minute mark in the first half was really bad. Then Bonner had a really bad stretch in the second half.
 

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Watching a highlight compilation ... underrated sequence (~15:55 mark on video, approx 10:45 game clock). Turnover, but Osun hustles back, gets possession ... concludes with a Grill 3.

5-point swing. Was 56-49 when it happened ... 59-49, Baylor could have had a fast-break layup to cut it to 56-51.

 

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Watching a highlight compilation ... underrated sequence (~15:55 mark on video, approx 10:45 game clock). Turnover, but Osun hustles back, gets possession ... concludes with a Grill 3.

5-point swing. Was 56-49 when it happened ... 59-49, Baylor could have had a fast-break layup to cut it to 56-51.



I noticed that too and could be wrong but I'm not sure if Osun was showing that kind of '**** it I'm selling out' energy in the first part of the year. He looked to be playing for others and all but just seemed like it was different yesterday. Maybe it's a comfort thing too.
 

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Big Rob was big cringe yesterday. That move where he ended up pinning himself under the basket and decided to shoot anyway, getting his shot blocked by the rim, made me feel kind of bad for him. Love it when he plays within himself, but when he tries to be a hero sometimes, I just have to do my best not to avert my eyes
This team is nowhere without that guy.
 

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Certainly not his best game by a long shot, but those five points he did get were absolutely huge for when they happened.

I think the more he thinks, with the pump fakes and what not, the worse he is offensively. He just needs to go up with the ball strong instead of trying the finesse stuff. He's certainly not a finesse kind of post player.
Bob fits the mold of a guy who does some bad things, oddly well at times. At the end of the day, the method matters less than the statbook and his job is to make a few shots. Finesse and great skill not required. If junkyard ball for him produces more points, then by all means go for it. No such thing as style points.
 
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No review on what happened to Gabe? Yet they took ages to review what happened to Thamba?

I watched this again and after his shot Thamba’s outstretched hand came down and hit Gabe’s face. I wondered why this was not reviewed. Seeking an answer from someone who knows the rules enough to give a good analysis of why it did not get reviewed.
 
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Can we see that again? Jesus.

I looked at it again and she did not blow the whistle on the initial catch as he was clearly inbounds and she recognized it. On the way down he double clutched and did not get it off until just before touching the ground. Here is a picture and I think he may have got it off before touching the ground although he might have touched the camera guy with his foot earlier in which case it would be the correct call. The ref does not blow the whistle until this point. I could not get my dvr recording on DVR to give me a definitive clear answer but I think we actually got it off in time but I have to give the ref the benefit.

The main point is that it was not as obvious a mis-call as they made it seem and in fact it could have been the right call. The ref on this side actually has a better vantage point.

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