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It’s been going on 10-15 years it seems. Most people I know don’t even heed it unless there’s a funnel on the ground. It has completely diluted the distinction IMO.

I get wanting to inform people of the potential, but I feel like Tornado Watch and Severe Thunderstorm warnings cover that.
My hometown has stopped sounding the tornado siren unless there is a tornado on the ground as too many people were ignoring the siren. Now we know if the siren goes off better take shelter as **** is about to get real. Unless it's noon on saturday.
 

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That’s what’s happening now I believe. Warnings should be limited to on-ground tornadoes. Or just make an up front distinction somehow
Just for arguments sake: you’d rather have a tornado warning after the twister forms and plows through your neighborhood vs being warned a tornado is about to form/drop
 
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People are starting to see it as crying wolf. That’s a problem. A distinction alleviates that.

You might be right, but you aren’t taking real basic human nature into account.
Beyond the explicit statement of radar indicated and observed?

And in addition to Tornado Emergency?

People already confuse Tornado Watch vs Warning.
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Feels weird to have 35-40mph gusts from the East while storms are coming from the west at 70.o_O
 

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Highest rain total I see is just a shade under 2 inches in Corning. If you ignore the 13 inch rain on wundermap northwest of Des Moines.


edit: Saw Guthrie center 3 inches.
 
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Just for arguments sake: you’d rather have a tornado warning after the twister forms and plows through your neighborhood vs being warned a tornado is about to form/drop
No.

Just a term that differentiates between a confirmed funnel on the ground and one that’s extremely possible.

Have NWS issue a separate Tornado Confirmation. Warning means what it does now, Confirmation means what warning did 20 years ago.
 

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No.

Just a term that differentiates between a confirmed funnel on the ground and one that’s extremely possible.

Have NWS issue a separate Tornado Confirmation. Warning means what it does now, Confirmation means what warning did 20 years ago.
Well, each tornado warning currently includes verbiage whether the tornado is radar indicated vs confirmed. If you are in a warned area, just open the weather notification to find out which one it is.
They also have a tornado emergency where a confirmed large tornado is about to hit a town. Not sure what else the NWS can do
 

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No.

Just a term that differentiates between a confirmed funnel on the ground and one that’s extremely possible.

Have NWS issue a separate Tornado Confirmation. Warning means what it does now, Confirmation means what warning did 20 years ago.

Pretty sure we had radar-based warnings 20 years ago. It feels like you're mixing discussion with that and the wind-based warnings we've seen more recently

But you just seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding about what watch/and warnings are supposed to be. They are directives to the public.

Watch= "keep an eye out for this hazard today, especially if you're going to be outside"

Warning= "bad **** is likely happening nearby, take shelter".

That's all it is. And spotter-reported or not, you should be taking shelter if a warning is issued. If you really want more info you can pull up more descriptive data, preferably once you're somewhere safe.

I mean ****, most of the time most people in a warned tornado area aren't going to be hit either. But they should still be seeking shelter. Your "cried wolf" logic would say that we might as well not do warnings at all because most people won't get hit by one and will feel like someone cried wolf.
 
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The other part about this argument that never makes any sense, is even if you quit warning radar indicated storms, and only warned storms with tornadoes on the ground, it's still likely that you personally won't be hit by the tornado that your warning triggered.

So the people bent out of shape about having been in a radar warning will just be in a different warning they're still probably ignoring anyway, and will still be apparently bent out of shape that their street wasn't rearranged.

And then it will be only warn ones that are causing damage and on and on.
 
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They had a tornado warning for Hazleton this afternoon where we live when there clearly was not one. If there was an actual tornado our response would have absolutely been different.
You do realize that if you if there is rotation in the atmosphere, it can drop down, destroy your house and kill you in a matter of seconds.
 

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People are starting to see it as crying wolf. That’s a problem. A distinction alleviates that.

You might be right, but you aren’t taking real basic human nature into account.
Adding a distinction like that implies that a person's response should be different. IT SHOULD NOT!!!!!
 

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No.

Just a term that differentiates between a confirmed funnel on the ground and one that’s extremely possible.

Have NWS issue a separate Tornado Confirmation. Warning means what it does now, Confirmation means what warning did 20 years ago.

Or, we just keep it as it is and let you decide your personal response.