The thing is.... Tech did't deserve to win. Iowa actually played well when they beat us. Tech played terrible. We just played way way way way worse. We deserved to lose. Tech didnt deserve to win.
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CycloneErik
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There are some nights where it's OK just to say that things stink.
Losing to Texas Tech is one of those nights.
Losing to Texas Tech is one of those nights.
Since the 18-point lead vs. WVa, ISU has just been asking to lose one like this.
If this is a temporary down-slope/lull, things will be OK.
The team is obviously capable of better (KU was still a loss, but that night's team could've won these last 3 by 20; 20-pointer over UT was slick). I wonder if they got the feeling they could just waltz in and mop up against the bottom-feeders.
Does this seem like a tournament team? Meh, not today. But this is a classic 10-seed resume we have going here. I'll expand on that later.
If this is a temporary down-slope/lull, things will be OK.
The team is obviously capable of better (KU was still a loss, but that night's team could've won these last 3 by 20; 20-pointer over UT was slick). I wonder if they got the feeling they could just waltz in and mop up against the bottom-feeders.
Does this seem like a tournament team? Meh, not today. But this is a classic 10-seed resume we have going here. I'll expand on that later.
CycloneErik
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Strategically, couldn't hurt.
With the effort and smarts that our guys forgot tonight, it would have looked pretty lazy and sluggish.
That's my guess. I like the idea, but not the team on the floor tonight. I just struggle to believe that our guys would have done anything well.
Wonder if pressing would have gotten the guys out of the sluggish mood they were in though.
I'm a little concerned how people can think we're "ok" after this loss...Texas Techs RPI was in the 220s...220s...that's TERRIBLE for a Division 1 basketball team, like idk how to describe it bad. Drake was around 120-130 last year...that might be able to put it into perspective.
This game and TCU were the only "We CANNOT lose" games of the year, and we lost one. That Kansas game just became 1000x more important.
This game and TCU were the only "We CANNOT lose" games of the year, and we lost one. That Kansas game just became 1000x more important.
ALL of the games remaining became 1000X more important. With the Big XII sucking donkey balls this year we can't get any decent wins with the exception of a couple, but we sure can sink our ship by losing like we did tonight. Gotta win most of the remaining and win 2-3 in the Big XII tourney to even have a chance now.
So ****** off and let down.
Please expand on that now. My night's sleep awaits it.
And feel free to bring up ANY and ALL 10 seeds that have lost to teams ranked sub-200 in power ratings and RPIs in the last 10 years.
Assuming we end the year with 8 or 9 loses I don't think this one kills us. It could however be the difference between a 6/7 and a 8/9 seed which would really suck.
If we have 11 or 12 losses were not making the tourney. I understand that. We can't get by with last year's record anymore.
If you're truly mad about this game, then I would say you don't have enough "life experience" yet.
I'm still waiting for a game where someone from the other team doesn't have a career high in scoring... it's been awhile.
The thing is that the season is nearly 60% over, and ISU looks to be completely discombobulated over the last three games, and the upcoming competition is getting much better. It's not really "way to early" anymore. We're getting to the point in the season where the team identity is what is it, and the chances of significantly changing that identity are small, and become smaller as each game passes. For a team that is playing as poorly as ISU is now, that's not a good place to be.
Last year at this time, RW was emerging as the go-to guy and the "team chemistry" was coming together around him. This year, there seems to be no leader emerging and no team chemistry. Again, that's not a good place to be with over 1/2 of the games already played.
i havent mentioned anything about basketball all year, but i will say this.. All last week, I remember Chris on the radio saying something about most fans are naive and expect a team to play well every night... This was after some apparently werent happy with the TCU game, even though we won. Well, now i believe Chris probably owes the naive fans an apology or some props for being right about said concerns.
To paraphrase the Buddha:
All suffering is caused by expectations.
I've seen this angst coming since as far back as last summer, when people like me go to the Capital League and watch these guys play street ball, causing us all to go all goose-bumpy about what is exhibition ball at it's worst, frankly. It also doesn't help to boost the egos of players who are decent, but not exceptional, Div. 1-level.
This was never a "Top 25" team, at least in my mind, confirmed after I watched that Iowa game, signed and sealed in performances like against Yale. This is a team that "plays well in stretches," yes. But so do probably most of the teams in major conferences.
I think even Fred has overestimated the talent level of this team, and its ability to win games with a spread-type, up-and-down, shoot-the-threes strategy. One of the hardest lessons to learn in coaching, especially if you were a great player like Fred was, is that your players can't often do, or think, like you used to.
To me, though, what they really lack is a Serious inside player. This, at the very least, amounts to a "Plan B" you can go to, when the 3's turn into bricks, and the turnovers pile up. "Old School" basketball ("pound it inside") is not the remedy for everything in today's game, but it's also remarkably neglected.
That said, I don't think it does the slightest bit of good to blame Gibson or Booker for what they are not. If those are the only two mules you can afford to pull your plow, you may as well praise them as whip them.
All suffering is caused by expectations.
I've seen this angst coming since as far back as last summer, when people like me go to the Capital League and watch these guys play street ball, causing us all to go all goose-bumpy about what is exhibition ball at it's worst, frankly. It also doesn't help to boost the egos of players who are decent, but not exceptional, Div. 1-level.
This was never a "Top 25" team, at least in my mind, confirmed after I watched that Iowa game, signed and sealed in performances like against Yale. This is a team that "plays well in stretches," yes. But so do probably most of the teams in major conferences.
I think even Fred has overestimated the talent level of this team, and its ability to win games with a spread-type, up-and-down, shoot-the-threes strategy. One of the hardest lessons to learn in coaching, especially if you were a great player like Fred was, is that your players can't often do, or think, like you used to.
To me, though, what they really lack is a Serious inside player. This, at the very least, amounts to a "Plan B" you can go to, when the 3's turn into bricks, and the turnovers pile up. "Old School" basketball ("pound it inside") is not the remedy for everything in today's game, but it's also remarkably neglected.
That said, I don't think it does the slightest bit of good to blame Gibson or Booker for what they are not. If those are the only two mules you can afford to pull your plow, you may as well praise them as whip them.
