*** Official IOWA STATE VS Texas Game(Day) Thread ***

madguy30

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Lol Texas is not good at all. Anyone with eyes or little basketball knowledge could see that tonight. There's a reason we didn't get blown out after the start we had.

So go through the 'Predictions' thread and see if people thought this would either be a close loss or close win tonight.

It wasn't because they thought Texas was so bad or that ISU is so good.
 
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I dont know if you watch other Big 12 teams but the middle teams are losing alot of games. Plus teams like TCU have brutal schedules coming up. In looking at schedules, there will be alot of teams in that 8-10 to 10-8 mark. If we can get 3 more wins we will be fine.

"I don't know if you watch other Big 12 teams?" Probably haven't missed a game yet this year when I'm home and able to watch. It doesn't matter where we finish in the league standings as far as tourney selection. We went 8-4 in the non-con with 2 medium-bad losses, and our best win was against a borderline bubble team who's probably out (Miami). That means we can't go 9-9 and expect to be fine. Since the First Four has been created, there has never been a team with only 17 wins picked as an at-large, and only one team with 18 wins - Okie State in 2015. We have to finish better than .500 in the league because we did nothing in our non-con. Our RPI is not great, and while our KenPom and Sagarin numbers are good, the committee is still using RPI this one final year.

If you're OK with a team with 6 scholarship seniors in the rotation, including all 5 starters (one a preseason All-American and Big 12 POTY) only making it to a play-in game for the tournament, then yes, only 3 more wins will be fine. If you'd like to not play in Dayton, we're gonna need 4 more wins. The bubble is weak, but it's starting to separate (see: Syracuse and Michigan tonight for examples). We are safe at 18-12 in the regular season. If we only go 17-13, we're going to need to probably win 2 games in KC - 1 would put us in First Four territory.
 

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This team just isn't that good folks. At KU we made a ton of bad, guarded 3's that never should have been shot. That's what we do, but most nights you don't hit 18 of them like we did at KU.

You're starting to figure it out.

So, if they get in the tourney, please just enjoy it instead of melting down when they miss ANOTHER final four.
 
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I know we are all pissed.. But don't act like you didn't expect this. we live and die by the jump shot since the team refuses to look inside or dump it off after driving. Love monte but him looking straight at and then shrugging off a posted up Solomon young multiple times just makes me even more ready for next year, and a less selfish team.
 

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"I don't know if you watch other Big 12 teams?" Probably haven't missed a game yet this year when I'm home and able to watch. It doesn't matter where we finish in the league standings as far as tourney selection. We went 8-4 in the non-con with 2 medium-bad losses, and our best win was against a borderline bubble team who's probably out (Miami). That means we can't go 9-9 and expect to be fine. Since the First Four has been created, there has never been a team with only 17 wins picked as an at-large, and only one team with 18 wins - Okie State in 2015. We have to finish better than .500 in the league because we did nothing in our non-con. Our RPI is not great, and while our KenPom and Sagarin numbers are good, the committee is still using RPI this one final year.

If you're OK with a team with 6 scholarship seniors in the rotation, including all 5 starters (one a preseason All-American and Big 12 POTY) only making it to a play-in game for the tournament, then yes, only 3 more wins will be fine. If you'd like to not play in Dayton, we're gonna need 4 more wins. The bubble is weak, but it's starting to separate (see: Syracuse and Michigan tonight for examples). We are safe at 18-12 in the regular season. If we only go 17-13, we're going to need to probably win 2 games in KC - 1 would put us in First Four territory.

Well, the Big 12 is getting more than 3 teams in and if you look at schedules there might be only 3 teams above .500 when its said and done. Our RPI is 41 I think and isnt likely to change much over the last 6 games. Thats usually good enough for a bid.

This loss is bad, but it isnt the end of the world, as long as we get to 9 wins I think we will still be ok. Now, if we lose on Saturday to Oklahoma it might be time to start sounding the panic button.
 

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I dont know if you watch other Big 12 teams but the middle teams are losing alot of games. Plus teams like TCU have brutal schedules coming up. In looking at schedules, there will be alot of teams in that 8-10 to 10-8 mark. If we can get 3 more wins we will be fine.

What makes me mad is our next 'chance' for a road win is at KState, who will be coming off losing to KU and playing at (and probably losing to) West Virginia. When we play our next road game after that at Tech, they will be coming off playing Baylor, KU, and at West Virginia. That is a stinky schedule set up. We're going to have to get 3 of our last 4 home games as wins. Now....most of you are saying, "well why wouldn't we"....or "well, we should". As long as we have to play uphill due to our lack of size and points in the paint, any of the 4 teams could get us in Hilton if we struggle shooting.
 

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Well, the Big 12 is getting more than 3 teams in and if you look at schedules there might be only 3 teams above .500 when its said and done. Our RPI is 41 I think and isnt likely to change much over the last 6 games. Thats usually good enough for a bid.

This loss is bad, but it isnt the end of the world, as long as we get to 9 wins I think we will still be ok. Now, if we lose on Saturday to Oklahoma it might be time to start sounding the panic button.

I agree we're getting more than 3 teams in, but probably not the 7 that are projected right now. Could be as few as 5. Our RPI just dropped to 47, which isn't good territory especially with Oklahoma coming Saturday - a win won't help us. Now, if we win out at Hilton which would include Baylor, that would be 4 wins and we'd be in for sure.
 

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What does ISU look like with Landen Lucas and what does KU look like with our 3 bigs?
Ku would find a way to get our 3 involved in the offense. While Landon Lucas would get shrugged off so the guys can chuck bricks until they get comfy.
 

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I agree we're getting more than 3 teams in, but probably not the 7 that are projected right now. Could be as few as 5. Our RPI just dropped to 47, which isn't good territory especially with Oklahoma coming Saturday - a win won't help us. Now, if we win out at Hilton which would include Baylor, that would be 4 wins and we'd be in for sure.

I had us going 1-3 on the road in these last 4 road games. I didnt expect a loss in Austin but we are capable of winning at K-State or Tech.
 

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17 wins against the 8th toughest SOS in the country right now on kenpom. That's good enough. People need to look at the bubble this year. It's really ******* bad

It's the worst I can ever remember - I'm well aware. Just saying, no team has been picked with 17 wins since 2011 even though the tourney expanded to 68. We'd be riding our 1 victory @KU, and looking at closing the season by going 3-5 plus our result in KC. Going into the tourney with 17 wins, we are definitely going to Dayton.
 
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I had us going 1-3 on the road in these last 4 road games. I didnt expect a loss in Austin but we are capable of winning at K-State or Tech.

Tech, agree. K-State, not a chance this year. Hope I eat those words later :)
 

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We are not very good against taller and bigger teams.Thats why I don't understand us not playing some zone. Prohm needs to figure that out.
 
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