***Official ISU vs Texas Meltdown Thread***

[t-noah]

Campbell's reaction to bad calls goes a long way explaining why the team has difficulty overcoming them. As a fan I react the same way but a coach needs to be a step ahead.

I'm not sure if I'd agree with that. Maybe to a point. On the other hand, I like to see Campbell displaying some passion!

Switching to BB, would you want TJ to be sedate the whole game, even when a situation would call for him to have a heated conversation with the refs, or maybe even get a technical called on him?Often times this fires the team up. And all the other coaches in the league do it, work the refs. At least in BB.

Yeah, I'm not sure if you would see Dave Aranda displaying that kind of fire, with terrible calls. Maybe he would, I don't know. For example, two different coaches and coaching styles

 

[CYEATHAWK]

Yeah, I'm not sure if you would see Dave Aranda displaying that kind of fire, with terrible calls. Maybe he would, I don't know. For example, two different coaches and coaching styles

That would have been interesting to see Aranda's reaction had the roles been reversed and one of his best players booted right away for a hit that a couple of times later for the exact hit wouldn't even review ISU for.

 

[Thomasrickj]

I'm not sure if I'd agree with that. Maybe to a point. On the other hand, I like to see Campbell displaying some passion!

Switching to BB, would you want TJ to be sedate the whole game, even when a situation would call for him to have a heated conversation with the refs, or maybe even get a technical called on him?Often times this fires the team up. And all the other coaches in the league do it, work the refs. At least in BB.

Yeah, I'm not sure if you would see Dave Aranda displaying that kind of fire, with terrible calls. Maybe he would, I don't know. For example, two different coaches and coaching styles

Agree with you. I'm not a fan of Kansas at all, but Bill Self does this perfectly. He's able to get in a refs face and is willing to take a technical. The team usually responds well to this and the refs tighten up.

 

[Statefan10]

I call foul! It's either or brother. You can't have it both ways! Get off the fence!


Haha!
Edit: @Statefan10, I was trying to be funny here. Re-reading what I typed, I'm going, 'what was I trying to say here? Doesn't make any sense. Some of my posts are that way sometimes. Sorry!

I know what you meant no worries!

 

[Cyforce]

I'm not sure if I'd agree with that. Maybe to a point. On the other hand, I like to see Campbell displaying some passion!

Switching to BB, would you want TJ to be sedate the whole game, even when a situation would call for him to have a heated conversation with the refs, or maybe even get a technical called on him?Often times this fires the team up. And all the other coaches in the league do it, work the refs. At least in BB.

Yeah, I'm not sure if you would see Dave Aranda displaying that kind of fire, with terrible calls. Maybe he would, I don't know. For example, two different coaches and coaching styles

Basketball and football are different animals. So many opportunities to shift momentum in basketball being a continuous flowing game. Players don't have time to dwell.

Granted I've only worked with HS athletes but a coach's reaction can spread dejection through a team instantaneously.

 

[jdolson27]

I’ll take the loss and move on, no hard feelings.

I just feel like when the whole concept is to run the clock to limit possessions and keep games low scoring and close, executing in the margins is critical. In the last 9 close games we’re 1-8 in those. If we win in the margins in any of them it doesn’t matter what the refs do with the possible exception of the Texas game.

Because of how we want to play, reffing has an oversized impact on any given game. The fix is to actually win in the margins and/or do more on offense which we saw for the first time this weekend.

Spot on!! Trying to limit possessions when you keep having a top defense makes no sense. Then you are limiting your offense. Again makes no sense. Play to the strengths and play chess against the opponents defense. Stop play calling from a script. Let the offense be an offense.

 

[joefrog]

Spot on!! Trying to limit possessions when you keep having a top defense makes no sense. Then you are limiting your offense. Again makes no sense. Play to the strengths and play chess against the opponents defense. Stop play calling from a script. Let the offense be an offense.

This.

We don't get enough possessions this way. CampbellBall as currently ran, almost requires perfection to achieve victory.

We don't have the Oline or NFL RBs to be doing that anymore.

That is why turnovers and bad calls are so huge against ISU, they swing the game.

CMC needs to trust his defense, blitz more trying to cause turnovers, and open up the offense.

This rope-a-dope nonsense isn't working anymore, and also isn't fun to watch as fans.

 

[t-noah]

I just feel like when the whole concept is to run the clock to limit possessions and keep games low scoring and close, executing in the margins is critical.

I agree, a two touchdown or plus difference suddenly takes all the pressure off requiring every favorable call or every single play being decisive.

I can see a strategy to try keep the score close. And maybe that helps with some of the better teams.

Trying to limit possessions when you keep having a top defense makes no sense.

Interesting question. Do we have a strategy to limit possessions, keep the score low? How long have we been doing it?

Or have we just had a pretty inept offense most of the season so far? What about past seasons?

Seems to me when you have a 3 and out, and have to punt; or punt after one 10-15 yard first down, you are giving the other team the ball either way, fairly quickly. If you make first downs, some of them on long to medium yardage plays, keeping the other team off guard, and scoring points, preferably touchdowns, that's the way to go, and always has been.

Just trying to think thru that strategy, if we really do have it, and if it's helped us in the past. Obviously, no strategy without much of an offense, is very good.