*** Official Kansas State VS IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***
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Preceded by the almost inconceivable incompetence of a 2-22 season the year before.
Some people ride the pine for “mistakes,” others do not
Part of that is people believing the teams were Top Ten material though.
Football underperformed but were realistically Top 20ish if things go better, and basketball has overachieved and not been able to sustain things with a limited group.
If anyone was surprised by this loss today….. you haven’t been paying attention…. we aren’t a good basketball team….. so that’s on you.
I was adamantly against the hiring of TJ when it happened…. then I ended up eating my words and apologizing for that after our great start….. but now I’m really questioning if TJ is the answer again?
I will give him a few more years of recruiting though and see what he can build. The last several weeks don’t give anyone a ton of hope though.
I was adamantly against the hiring of TJ when it happened…. then I ended up eating my words and apologizing for that after our great start….. but now I’m really questioning if TJ is the answer again?
I will give him a few more years of recruiting though and see what he can build. The last several weeks don’t give anyone a ton of hope though.
All but 3 "guys" on the roster are his "guys."
I realize you're probably referring to HS recruits, but transfers count.
Well, first notice there were 22 games, meaning we were missing the SELAs and Chicago States. Second, that guy got fired and pretty much everybody outside of Prohm knew it needed to happen. Third, even if they got the full slate of buy games and won 7 or 8 games Prohm should’ve been fired and probably would’ve.
The way TJ put this team together in short order and they bought in to start was awesome. But if you are going to just look at the record and not the trajectory, and expect a jump in record next year, I suspect you will be disappointed. Far and away the best player on this team is going to be gone.
Lazy turnovers absolutely have to do with coaching. I would also say that poor finishing isn't as completely removed from the realm of coaching, either. I'm mostly joking when I say they need to run the Mikan drill but I don't think it's hard to see that the staff has cared far more about one end of the court than the other. We've been told guys get benched for missing defensive assignments yet the same lazy turnovers get made time and time again without anything similar happening.
The bolded is a problem, and sadly no one on the staff appears to be able to give TJO any guidance, because things seem to be regressing.
I think one stroke of genius for Hoiberg was to get Bobby Lutz (who was a successful head coach for a number of years) to help him along that first year, and then Doc Sadler after that. Maybe that "helper" person was supposed to be Kyle Green.
Yeah, can't be knee Jerk about TJ, as tempting as it is. He deserves a fair shot. This year will be a net positive...I think... but certainly leaving a lot to be desired down the stretch here, and a last place Big 12 finish is appearing likely... which was expected I suppose. He absolutely needs to get better in the 2nd half of games, an area our previous coach consistently failed in also
Look at Oregon State. They went to the elite 8 last year and this year are 3-19. They brought in transfers and they are selfish. We brought team first guys to transition to a new staff.
This coaching staff will get more reinforcements next season to help on offense
This coaching staff will get more reinforcements next season to help on offense
Why would anyone do that when it was pretty clear to everyone what was going to happen months ahead of time?
I mean he’s in his 5th or 6th year of being a head coach right?
Other coaches knew months ahead of time that TJ was going to ISU?
Now, before you 'dumb' this, was that actually a thing?
