*** Official Kansas State vs IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

[CyNews]

At least my nutcup worked.

 

[madguy30]

That Big 12 title game….strangely prophetic now.

So were lots of moments in the 2018 and 2019 seasons.

2017 was fun to watch ISU ascend but that receiving core with DM should have been a nightmare for teams even with Kempt.

 

[Malty Flannel]

JP doesn't have the cajones either to tell CMC that Manning has to go. So we're stuck just paying HUGE money to both CMC and Manning because JP doesn't think it can get any better at ISU than this. That is despicable.

What is Campbell gonna do, tell him fine I’ll leave? Then go hire Golesh

 

[CycloneErik]

And look at all the teams like Penn State, LSU, Michigan, etc. who didn’t make a bowl that year but we’re solid pretty much every other year around it. People will hate this, but it was a fluke year.

It was.
Now we look to be at a show we've seen before.

 

[ZuriCyclone]

Need to reduce CMC salary, no other program is going to take him. I am afraid folks may come after John Heacock. Put the money from that to a compotent offensive staff. They don't even need to be good, just better then average

 

[ISUChippewa]

Our fiesta bowl season was a farce. Strange unusual year with completely unnormal circumstances. We played 4-3 Oregon in it. We played big 12 teams who could barely field a team because of covid.

Yeah...it's too bad in retrospect that we were the only team in Division I football that played in such weird times that season.

 

[Bigman38]

Maybe Dekkers has been over-coached. Forced into playing Manning’s game instead of playing to Dekkers strengths.

I thought he has looked shell shocked for weeks now. Even when he gets the time to throw it he looks panicked.

 

[cyclones500]

I have an urge to rant in so many ways, but I need to accept this is a 4-8 type of season. It isn't going to happen.

 

[clone1990]

Issues in order of priority:
Manning
Special teams
Offensive line.

 

[Kdog68]

Losing that fumble return will not leave them happy.

I threw up in my mouth a bit thinking that play could have won it for them - lucky F’rs. Glad it got called back (right call).

 

[awd4cy]

Even if you throw out 2020, show me an ISU coach who finished the conference 4th, 3rd, 3rd, (1st but you are excluding 2020) and 4th in 4 consecutive seasons? Many of you need to sleep on it and cool off a bit. We used to be a program just happy to get 6 wins to be bowl eligible.

I’m not saying Campbell didn’t have good seasons. I’m saying 2020 was a fluke and we probably won’t ever see it again unless there are major changes with our offensive staff.

 

[atlantacyclone]

Well, on the bright side we will keep CMC. How many players will bolt?

 

[madguy30]

It’s really simple. This team makes fewer plays than our opponents.

They're missing the 'go get it' that's sort of kind of needed.

 

[ZuriCyclone]

What is Campbell gonna do, tell him fine I’ll leave? Then go hire Golesh

Just give the job to John Heacock. He has been the team for the last six years. I am thinking CMC does not even matter.

 

[ClonesTwenty1]

Well, on the bright side we will keep CMC. How many players will bolt?

Well a ton did this last off season

 

[Malone]

Um. you're unqualified graduate assistant has been recognized as one of the top 30 under 30 coaches on offense?


Nice of our DB's to bail out to the other end zone to keep giving up the come back

Myers is not a top 30 under 30 anything

 

[AuH2O]

I will say that our offense is better than Iowa's. Are we the worst 2 power 5 offenses?

Actually Iowa had a better opponent adjusted YPP coming into tonight.

 

[madguy30]

Nope. Found a wind open safety.

I did a lot of underestimating of ineptness today.

Although Iowa will get the ball back here.

 

[Dryburn]

Only thing that has saved him for last few years are talented offensive players that his his lack of talent as an OC.

ISU has become Iowa. Great D, terrible inept offense.

Texas, TCU, Okie State will bury this team. Not sure about Tech, OU or WV. No bowl this year.

Good news? Maybe, maybe not. Less likely any other team is going to be seeking MC as head coach.

At least BF will have a team worth watching this Winter. Not sure what TJ will have, but it has to be more fun to watch than ths fb team.

 

[HoustonClone]

I thought he has looked shell shocked for weeks now. Even when he gets the time to throw it he looks panicked.

And that’s exactly why KSU pressured him so much. They see it…do our coaches?