While I agree with this analysis, I really wish KU would have just given up by now. But at this point they have not and for some reason they remain as hungry for win #2 as we do for win #6 and bowl eligibility. This game just scares me and I just dont think we can stop their running game with the loss of Knott.
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While I agree with this analysis, I really wish KU would have just given up by now. But at this point they have not and for some reason they remain as hungry for win #2 as we do for win #6 and bowl eligibility. This game just scares me and I just dont think we can stop their running game with the loss of Knott.
I've had a bad feeling about this game since before the season started for some reason. It seems like we always take one game we should win and find a way to let it slip away. This feels like the one.
At the same time with CPR we also bounce back well and seem to always find a way to win a big one. WV isn't necessarily a big one, but I predict we drop one to Kansas, this board implodes, and then we end up beating WV soundly in Ames.
At the same time with CPR we also bounce back well and seem to always find a way to win a big one. WV isn't necessarily a big one, but I predict we drop one to Kansas, this board implodes, and then we end up beating WV soundly in Ames.
Do you think the coaches are starting Jantz just to spite you or something? He's the best option available. And other than two plays of the TCU game the offense didn't run even a smidgeon better with Barnett back there. Jantz took a huge step forward against Baylor and hasn't regressed the past two games, we've just played two really good football teams that we couldn't compete with athletically. We knew they were going to blitz a lot and we know that's the way to shut down our QBs, but we didn't adjust our playcalling to make them pay for it. Jantz isn't going to be all conference or anything but there's no way to put all the blame on him.
The QB doesn't call "missed block on two"
The QB doesn't call "dropped pass on one"
The QB doesn't make a check to a hot route that includes "but make sure you don't turn around and see the ball to catch it"
The QB doesn't ask the offensive coordinator to go away from what's working.
The QB doesn't tell our defensive backs to let guys get open.
The QB doesn't tell our defensive line to miss tackles.
The QB didn't cause Knott to get injured.
The QB didn't cause Lenz to get injured.
The more I really think about this game...ISU rolls. People should remember who's coaching on each sideline here. People really think CPR won't have the boys fired up for this game? Prepared for a fight in this game? That Wally can't shut down a one deminsional offense?
C'mon...
C'mon...
Big 12 records:
Jantz: (1-6) Wins against.... The worst defense college football has ever seen - Also, gave Baylor a chance to come back in the game with his fumble with 6 mins left only up by 14 and trying to run the clock out.
Barnett: (4-4) Wins against @#19 TTU, #2 OSU, @#13 TCU - Also, in position to beat #1 KSU by the way
Yeah lets go with Jantz though - he gives us our best chance at winning in the Big 12! Are the Jantz lovers just delusional? What is a better metric then winning?? I second CycloneState78... I can not wait until Jantz is gone next year.
Jantz: (1-6) Wins against.... The worst defense college football has ever seen - Also, gave Baylor a chance to come back in the game with his fumble with 6 mins left only up by 14 and trying to run the clock out.
Barnett: (4-4) Wins against @#19 TTU, #2 OSU, @#13 TCU - Also, in position to beat #1 KSU by the way
Yeah lets go with Jantz though - he gives us our best chance at winning in the Big 12! Are the Jantz lovers just delusional? What is a better metric then winning?? I second CycloneState78... I can not wait until Jantz is gone next year.
Sorry, sometimes I forget that the QB is the only player on the field and that no other players have any influence on the outcomes of games. Or that the performance of the other team also has no impact on how the game goes.
Look at their recruiting classes under Hawkins, a lot of potential in recruits. Not much showing up though, hence the reason for failure, I am beating a coaching change will be happening shortly for CU.
I am getting a little tired of all the whinny ******* in this site. Get over ur crying.....When Rhoads allowed Jantz to continue to go back on the field last Saturday and continue the masterpiece of a game he was playing I lost a considerable amount of confidence in what this team is capable of doing the remainder of this season. The guy went 5 of 11 for 31 yards and an interception in the 2nd half. He went an amazing 1 of 4 for -1 yards in the 3rd quarter and the defense managed to hold Texas to only a FG. Iowa State was down 23-7 in the 3rd quarter... the game was not over had ISU been able to do anything on offense but leaving Jantz in the game was symbolic.... the raising of the white flag in surrender.
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I dont think Barnett or Jantz are the answer, but give me the guy that is actually leader on the field. It just seems like the team plays behind Barnett more than they do Jantz and you can tell it by their body language. I dont think Barnett is the quarterback next year and I dont think he is better than Steele, I think they are about even, but he is more of a leader and right now this team needs someone to lead this offense. Jantz's body language was called out last Saturday by the commentators, that is never good and if its being noticed by those on the outside, I have to believe its being noticed by the guys on his team.
In comparision.... Both QBs play with the EXACT same OL, The EXACT same RBs and the EXACT same WRs.
Are you trying to say that there is something ELSE going on?? The OL and WRs don't like Jantz on a personal level.. so they are throwing the games that he is in?? I guess I am confused by this comment. we are comparing Apples to Apples with only the QB switching off... Conclusion (1-6 vs. 4-4) Barnett is a better QB
Quiz time: Which QB would you rather have running the offense?
| QB 1 | QB 2 | |
| QB Rating | 105.7 | 120.8 |
| Completion Percentage | 48.11% | 62.26% |
| Interception Percentage | 5.66% | 4.28% |
| Fumble Percentage | 3.57% | 3.45% |
| Yards/Catch | 5.5 | 6 |
QB 1 is Barnett. QB 2 is Jantz
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Are those ONLY big 12 games?? That is all that barnett has played in.
Jantz(Big12 only) 137-263 1,434 yards 11 TDs 10 INTs (52.09% 204.86 average)
Barnett 152-295 1,708 yards 12 TDs 8 INTs (51.53% 189.78 average)
Hmmm.... 52% vs 51.5%, 15 yard difference in yards per game, 10 INTs vs 8 INTs, 1-6(win over worst defense ever vs 4-4(wins over 3 ranked teams)
Tough choice there
Jantz(Big12 only) 137-263 1,434 yards 11 TDs 10 INTs (52.09% 204.86 average)
Barnett 152-295 1,708 yards 12 TDs 8 INTs (51.53% 189.78 average)
Hmmm.... 52% vs 51.5%, 15 yard difference in yards per game, 10 INTs vs 8 INTs, 1-6(win over worst defense ever vs 4-4(wins over 3 ranked teams)
Tough choice there
This almost makes me want to cheer for the KU offense. I'm changing my prediction:
ISU 45
KU 38
I hear plenty of excuses here. At what point does the QB take a little responsibility for the offensive woes? Does the offense take any heat for hanging the defense out to dry by going 3 & out over and over so the defense spends 40 minutes on the field against no huddle up tempo offenses? For God's sake... the first INT he tossed in the Texas game he got pressured... it was understandable that he get rid of the ball. THROW THE BALL OUT OF BOUNDS!!!!!!!!!! You can't just close your eyes and chuck it up for grabs down the middle of the field like Jantz did.
Look... I think we can all agree that the ISU defense has been the strength of the team this year. The problem is the defense can only do so much and when the offense can't get a 1st down let alone string a few of them together the defense is going to get so fatigued that they won't be able to stop anyone. Texas had the ball for nearly 40 minutes last Saturday... how is the defense supposed to play their best when they don't get a chance to rest?
