*** OFFICIAL VEISHEA WEEK 2014 THREAD ***

Die4Cy

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We joke about it here, couch burning fans and the like, but I was around campus for the first two of these riots and they are a self-fulfilling prophesy now. The first occurred during a week of abnormally warm spring weather and people took advantage of it through overzealous partying. The second time it happened, it almost seemed PLANNED. Everyone's out of town friends came into town to see if something would happen and no one was surprised when it did. It has now happened twice since then, like 4 times in the past 25 years. The event is totally overshadowed by the stuff happening off campus on Welch and Stanton.

VEISHEA has morphed into a weeklong drunk fest as subtext for troublemaking. It's probably time to hang it up.
 

cyclone13

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VEISHEA is not the problem. The dumb students and their friends are the problem. Maybe ISU needs to increase it's standards for admitting students to weed out all of the bad apples.

And increase the severity of the punishment for those who are involved.
 

RubyClone

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I guess I was mistaken that it was Ohio, but I thought they did tear down the posts. It was against Baylor, Homecoming game 1997

from https://www.isualum.org/en/events/homecoming/homecoming_2012/history/

But according to this article they did tear them down for Ohio: http://www.iowastatedaily.com/article_73e9ca33-4b05-5702-89c5-9310b1775301.html


Ahh. I just don't recall playing Ohio that early - before the new "industructible" goal posts were installed in the late 90's. That's what I was meaning.

The came down several times during my tenure at ISU in the early 90's. I believe the ratio was roughly 1:2 wins. :sad:
 

Jer

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A few of these buffoons actual post pictures of themselves rioting to social media.

And that will bite them for the rest of their lives as reviewing social media is pretty much a part of background checking potential job applicants. I have used it many times to rule people out.
 

laminak

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Looking through the past. 2004 riots were because of a party on Hunt Street and this one was caused by a party on Hunt Street (2-3 houses down from the 2004 one)

Just demolish Hunt Street


The 1994 riot was due to several parties (which got too large) on South Franklin Street.
 

Rhoadhoused

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Drinking is absolutely a part of the VEISHEA tradition. It is now the main tradition, like it or not. Rioting every so many years seems as though it is becoming a part of it as well. I would hate to see all the good family stuff go, but it might not be possible to keep. No matter what, if you name a week VEISHEA you will be painting a target for people to come into town and for students to blow classes off and throw huge parties. Extra people who don't care at all about the area fuel the actual students to act crazier and it just compounds on itself.
 

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RubyClone

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The use Veishea as an excuse to drink - I wouldn't say drinking is Veishea tradition.

Originally - no. But I think it's safe to say it has become so. Just look at the early posts in this thread.

I'm not better than anyone else. I played in a VEISHEA tournament or two. My gf drug me to the parade the only time I went. Other than that, I knew of little to nothing of official VEISHEA events, as I'm sure is the case with most other students.

But we sure as hell knew it was VEISHEA.
 

Die4Cy

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There was a helluva mess on South Franklin in '94. I lived on that street. It was ugly.
 

NATEizKING

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The bolded comment is complete ignorance. 18-21 year old kids assemble at all sorts of different kind of events. Concerts, sporting events, etc. It rarely ever results in a riot. The consistency at which VEISHEA has resulted in a riot is the problem. In my opinion it is becoming part of the tradition. If you think that's a ridiculous comment then go back and look at the OP in this thread. People think it's funny until something bad happens. It's sad but it's true. The University can't just turn their backs to something that's becoming a continual issue. That's negligence. Especially when someone has now been seriously injured or possibly killed because of it.

Are they all in one group and extremely intoxicated? Do underage kids carry backpacks full of booze to sporting events and concerts?
 

NATEizKING

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The environment was caused by the nature of the crowd - including those "just standing around". There is nothing different about Welch than just about any campus in America and you don't see recurring riots everywhere else. The people are what caused the bad environment regardless of how you look at it.

To suggest that the physical environment was a contributing factor is complete BS in my opinion. Fault rests with the idiots that either directly contributed to the shouting, throwing of bottles/fireworks, and property damage and those that contributed by simply being present and added to the crowd mentality that has been proven to be a very large contributing factor in riots.

Regardless of those that want to defend those that "just watched", it has been proven in psychology that as the crowd gets bigger, even of pure spectators, the more vocal and violent the core group gets. By being there and watching, you're contributing to the riot - according to both the exact wording of Iowa Law and various studies.

By nothing different, you mean tripling/quadrupling/whatever the normal student population there in a bar area that has always been 21, therefore meaning fewer and smaller bars that can't hold that influx of people? What campus has such a large influx of people like this?
 

carvers4math

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Originally - no. But I think it's safe to say it has become so. Just look at the early posts in this thread.

I'm not better than anyone else. I played in a VEISHEA tournament or two. My gf drug me to the parade the only time I went. Other than that, I knew of little to nothing of official VEISHEA events, as I'm sure is the case with most other students.

But we sure as hell knew it was VEISHEA.

Even for us ancient folks in the 1980's, it was mostly about drinking. I always dreaded it since I was always working some crappy job while going to school and whatever crappy job it was, we would be inundated by drunks getting grabby, passing out, or vomiting everywhere. I usually got to the parade and did a few intramurals.
 

Skidoosh

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have to have a wristband to get into campustown properties. Starting today.

We already had that anyway. Each resident has 3 guest wristbands given to them.

*edit* nevermind. Was thinking of old "Campustown" word i.e. Legacy and Cyclone.
 

ZachsterPoke

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I'm trying to keep an eye out on TV and some websites to see if any are going to show the press conference. Not finding much at the moment, or even many mentions that there will even be one.