Officiating at the end of the Iowa game

[isutrevman]

Blatantly bad calls in this game:

1.P.I. on Purchase (perfect coverage, reached around to knock the ball down. Can't play it any better than that)
2.Iowa defensive holding in the end zone (Happened simultaneously to the ball being thrown to a different receiver, had no impact on the play, usually that's not throw)
3.Iowa late hit on Dekkers (He was a runner, and was still bounds)
4. Defensive offsides on MJ Anderson. At first I thought this was the right call, he was lined up about a foot in front of the rest of the Iowa State line. However, I've seen some still shots and replays where it looks like he's just behind the ball and not actually off sides at all.
5. Sideline interference on Iowa State. Should have gotten a warning first, and you just don't make that call on a change of possession like that. It's be like calling a penalty for players giving high fives after a touchdown.

 

[Cyfan1965]

Apparently I don't know what a false start is, because it looked like a LOT of Iowa linemen got early jumps (like maybe 6-8 times throughout the game)?

QB leaned on every play and they jumped early into pass protection all day long

 

[clonedude]

Blatantly bad calls in this game:

1.P.I. on Purchase (perfect coverage, reached around to knock the ball down. Can't play it any better than that)
2.Iowa defensive holding in the end zone (Happened simultaneously to the ball being thrown to a different receiver, had no impact on the play, usually that's not throw)
3.Iowa late hit on Dekkers (He was a runner, and was still bounds)
4. Defensive offsides on MJ Anderson. At first I thought this was the right call, he was lined up about a foot in front of the rest of the Iowa State line. However, I've seen some still shots and replays where it looks like he's just behind the ball and not actually off sides at all.
5. Sideline interference on Iowa State. Should have gotten a warning first, and you just don't make that call on a change of possession like that. It's be like calling a penalty for players giving high fives after a touchdown.

I disagree with #3. The Iowa player had Dekkers stood up and riding him out of bounds, and Dekkers wasn't even trying to advance.... and actually some people are saying the official had blown it dead since forward progress had stopped.

 

[Cydwinder]

Blatantly bad calls in this game:

1.P.I. on Purchase (perfect coverage, reached around to knock the ball down. Can't play it any better than that)
2.Iowa defensive holding in the end zone (Happened simultaneously to the ball being thrown to a different receiver, had no impact on the play, usually that's not throw)
3.Iowa late hit on Dekkers (He was a runner, and was still bounds)
4. Defensive offsides on MJ Anderson. At first I thought this was the right call, he was lined up about a foot in front of the rest of the Iowa State line. However, I've seen some still shots and replays where it looks like he's just behind the ball and not actually off sides at all.
5. Sideline interference on Iowa State. Should have gotten a warning first, and you just don't make that call on a change of possession like that. It's be like calling a penalty for players giving high fives after a touchdown.

I think the late hit wasn’t as bad a many think. Yes Dekkers was still in the field of play, but the whistle had blown and you can see on the replay that the ref was already signaling to keep the clock running, meaning it was dead. It was definitely a harsh call based on the situation, but it was a judgement call the ref made in the moment.

 

[MartyFine]

Hysterical that the Tavern Hoks think ISU got the calls yesterday.

 

[Cyrocks]

Hysterical that the Tavern Hoks think ISU got the calls yesterday.

I love the irony that a fan base who constantly say ISU fans always complain about the officials is complaining about the officials costing them the game.

 

[Trice]

I think the late hit wasn’t as bad a many think. Yes Dekkers was still in the field of play, but the whistle had blown and you can see on the replay that the ref was already signaling to keep the clock running, meaning it was dead. It was definitely a harsh call based on the situation, but it was a judgement call the ref made in the moment.

The whistle had not blown (as least as is audible in this video), nor had the official signaled to keep the clock running, before DeJean lunged toward Dekkers to shove him out.

Regardless, it was a real lack of awareness by DeJean. Particularly when a QB is involved, officials are probably going to err on the side of safety in that situation and there's no reason to put them in the position of having to make a judgment call. Especially when Dekkers clearly wasn't going anywhere.

 

[Cydwinder]

The whistle had not blown (as least as is audible in this video), nor had the official signaled to keep the clock running, before DeJean lunged toward Dekkers to shove him out.

Regardless, it was dumb play by DeJean. No reason to even put the official in position to make a judgment call on that when Dekkers clearly wasn't going anywhere.

I guess I was just assuming the whistle blew because the ref was starting his signal as he started to make the hit. I personally don’t think it was worth a flag, but like you said, he put the ref in a position to make a decision on it. If it wasn’t the QB it also probably gets treated differently too.

 

[madguy30]

I absolutely saw an obvious offensive hold before the ball came loose, and when they said there were flags down I told my wife, “It’s holding, they’ll decline it, game‘s over.” Then they said there were two flags, so I think, well, offsetting penalties, that’s a bummer. Then they announced both fouls were on Iowa State and I was like, but-what?

It's just not an ISU football game without some weird precarious situation after so many opportunities to make it not matter.

 

[BCClone]

I guess I was just assuming the whistle blew because the ref was starting his signal as he started to make the hit. I personally don’t think it was worth a flag, but like you said, he put the ref in a position to make a decision on it. If it wasn’t the QB it also probably gets treated differently too.

You do that to a QB and they call the close ones.

 

[SCarolinaCy]

This. I've seen it in the middle of games when coaches are arguing a call or players run on to the field when there is a scrum, but never for players getting excited when they think their team has won at the end of a game. Sideline warning sure, but never a 15 yarder in that kind of situation. It was total BS.

Someone have a video of this?

 

[cyrocksmypants]

When people look in the record books it’s never going to say “but it was a weak division”.

Maybe. I can tell you almost two decades later everyone still absolutely remembers how terrible the Big 12 north was though. The record books may not see it, but people remember.

 

[ricochet]

Maybe. I can tell you almost two decades later everyone still absolutely remembers how terrible the Big 12 north was though. The record books may not see it, but people remember.

But for some reason nobody seems to remember at one point the Big 12 north also had the #1, #2, and #3 ranked teams at the same time.

 

[NetflixAndClone]

I have a favor to ask for any of the cyclone fans that ever post on Hawkeye sites since I don’t do that.

I notice a lot of hok fans complain about the booth giving Iowa State the ball on the fumble. They keep saying it was the big 12 refs rigging it. It is important to note as long as they haven’t changed the rule recently. In non con games. The road team brings their conference field refs and the home team has their conference booth refs. It wasn’t big 12 refs giving the ball to ISU. It was big ten refs.

Field refs : big 12
Booth refs: big 10

Be mad at your own refs not the big 12 ones.

 

[7Got6]

I have a favor to ask for any of the cyclone fans that ever post on Hawkeye sites since I don’t do that.

I notice a lot of hok fans complain about the booth giving Iowa State the ball on the fumble. They keep saying it was the big 12 refs rigging it. It is important to note as long as they haven’t changed the rule recently. In non con games. The road team brings their conference field refs and the home team has their conference booth refs. It wasn’t big 12 refs giving the ball to ISU. It was big ten refs.

Field refs : big 12
Booth refs: big 10

Be mad at your own refs not the big 12 ones.

There’s a few Iowa fans for sure are posting that that cost Iowa the game but they overwhelming majority are blaming this dog **** offense.

 

[bosco]

They also usually give a warning prior. Where was that, o arrogant God of officiating?

Blum mentioned this in the instant reaction. Is this true? Is there an official warning or is it more like the ref comes up to the coach and says of your players run out again it's a technical?

 

[RedDog]

X removed the hands, with force, that were holding him and caught the td pass. The correct no-call was made imho.

 

[bosco]

If any of the KXNO shows has Bill Blank on this next week he needs to be called out for this. His responses in the comments are just as bad, he continues to double down that the refs gave ISU the game.

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This guy doesn't like turtles. Maybe he wanted a turtle when he was a kid wasn't allowed. Someone should gift him a turtle and it would be like the ending of the Grinch.

 

[isutrevman]

I think the late hit wasn’t as bad a many think. Yes Dekkers was still in the field of play, but the whistle had blown and you can see on the replay that the ref was already signaling to keep the clock running, meaning it was dead. It was definitely a harsh call based on the situation, but it was a judgement call the ref made in the moment.

How much time between the whistle being blown and the shove? The whole thing happened fast. Like 1/8 second? You can't make a defender pull off with that short of a warning. It's not the same as hitting late our of bounds because the defender can see the boundary line and anticipate when to let up.

 

[Frak]

Blum mentioned this in the instant reaction. Is this true? Is there an official warning or is it more like the ref comes up to the coach and says of your players run out again it's a technical?

You see refs giving a sideline warning once in awhile. I've honestly never seen them go right to the 15 yard penalty without it unless it's some strange thing like a player coming off the sideline to make a tackle or something like that. Now maybe they did give a warning prior, but usually they announce it over the PA.

Thing is, ISU thought it was a change of possession, so the offensive players were heading out on to the field. That was a terrible call that could have impacted the game. At the very most, it should have been a sideline warning.