Making a Murderer has been advertised as "Season 1". I wonder how long until there is a season 2?
OT: Making A Murderer on Netflix
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Not sure if mentioned on here, but that group Anonymous is threatening to release police emails to the public on this case that supposedly be very bad for them. I hope they do it.
After living 19 years in Minnesota I can say, without a doubt, the accents of these people in Wisconsin is far stronger than anyone I ever met in MN. It wasn't until you got up around Brainerd and north that people started having anything close to what Steven Avery has.
Between this show and the affluenza case verdict I don't know how anyone can't see that we have a ****ed up system.
The actual court rulings in the case haven't particularly surprised me. Welcome to my world. I've never claimed to be a criminal law expert, but they won't let you specifically name other potential defendants unless you can show motive and opportunity for one thing. It puts the prosecution in the position of not only having to prove you did it beyond a reasonable doubt, but disproving 10 others.
I think its clear that the Mantiwoc County Sheriff's Dept had some, um, issues. That's not normal and much less so now with all the ability to check information. In '85 police had a lot more discretion. What is still common is what I would call the harrassment of certain individuals. The violation of the no-contact order with the fiance is one thing. They were doing whatever they could to drive her away from him and it ultimately worked. Now you can argue its for the greater good, but things like that are very, very common.
This series also reinforces why we want to set up a system of letting 10 guilty people go if it means keeping one innocent person from being wrongly convicted.
I think its clear that the Mantiwoc County Sheriff's Dept had some, um, issues. That's not normal and much less so now with all the ability to check information. In '85 police had a lot more discretion. What is still common is what I would call the harrassment of certain individuals. The violation of the no-contact order with the fiance is one thing. They were doing whatever they could to drive her away from him and it ultimately worked. Now you can argue its for the greater good, but things like that are very, very common.
This series also reinforces why we want to set up a system of letting 10 guilty people go if it means keeping one innocent person from being wrongly convicted.
Didn't read one post in this thread yet. Skipped right down to the reply box. I'll read the thread when I finish watching the documentary.
I watched the first three episodes last night and then it was 2AM. I could have kept watching though. Great start! Excited for the next 7.
I watched the first three episodes last night and then it was 2AM. I could have kept watching though. Great start! Excited for the next 7.
I saw that posted on some website, but couldn't find much solid info on it. Stumbled upon the twitter account of '0hour1' who appears to be connected to Anonymous in some way, & it looks like he's live tweeting all kinds of theories/info he's getting from various people. I'm a twitter n00b so it's mostly confusing to me, but it looks like there are some potentially interesting pieces of information being thrown around if nothing else.
Ha, right after I started watching it on Monday night I saw this thread but didn't even open it. Going to watch the last episode tonight but not sure what to expect since both main trials & sentencing are done.
I just can't believe that Avery would be that adept at covering up evidence of a murder and completely forget he has a car crusher and smelter on the property to get rid of a car and body so instead he uses a burn barrel and some sticks to cover it up.
The guy who talked about how professional blood spatter experts/investigators/analysts could never clean up a murder that happened in that garage given all the crap that was in there was pretty powerful to me. Apparently to the jury, not so much. If the murder happened in his garage, where's the physical evidence beyond a planted .22 bullet with a little of the victim's DNA on it?
http://mobile.onmilwaukee.com/movies/articles/evidenceagainstavery.html
Read this. Here's my theory on the matter. Steven and Brendan killed Theresa but the police didn't have enough evidence to get a conviction so they planted what they needed to plant to get the conviction.
A big thing that struck me as odd was Brendan claiming that he got his story from the a James Patterson book. However, at the time, Brendan had a 4th grade reading level. I have a hard time believing that he read this book or that this book was read in a classroom setting.
Read this. Here's my theory on the matter. Steven and Brendan killed Theresa but the police didn't have enough evidence to get a conviction so they planted what they needed to plant to get the conviction.
A big thing that struck me as odd was Brendan claiming that he got his story from the a James Patterson book. However, at the time, Brendan had a 4th grade reading level. I have a hard time believing that he read this book or that this book was read in a classroom setting.
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Curious if anyone thinks the jury might think harder about a guilty verdict if they knew the death penalty was an option.
Or if the judge would use more discretion when deciding the sentence. (unless in death penalty states death is the only available sentence for murder?)
I think it's very likely that Steven did kill Teresa, but the way the case was bungled from the very start and some of the choices made by the investigators and then the judge during the trial are just mind boggling.
And then when they allow Brendan, a kid who is clearly not functioning according to his age, to be questioned without his attorney present, dismiss the attorney but then keep that evidence in the trial seems like a horrible oversight at best.
And then when they allow Brendan, a kid who is clearly not functioning according to his age, to be questioned without his attorney present, dismiss the attorney but then keep that evidence in the trial seems like a horrible oversight at best.
