OU wants Beebe gone

[isuclone89]

I didn't really read it as that. I read it as if the Big 12 gets rid of Beebe and changes the written agreements of the conference they will stay. Whether this will all happen is another question, and if it doesn't they are gone.

This.

OU put their final power play out there, now it's Texas turn to say yea or nay.

 

[clone99]

Might as well fire him. As long as he is in charge there will never be any stability in this conference and it is going to explode anyways as long as Texas is part of it. He is the one that let this go as far as it has. If he would have let Texas go to the PAC-10 last year, gave the longhorn network the finger we may actually had a conference worth saving.

 

[Wesley]

"Fellas, I need a job. Mr DeLoss will give me a good reference. That pinhead Boren has made my life miserable."

 

[awd4cy]

If Texas disagrees, could we kick them out? Could the Big 12 survive without Texas?

It can but a Big 12 without Texas is not near as good of option for them as the Pac 12 because there would not be near as much money to be made.

 

[3TrueFans]

Fake Beebe is absolutely blowing up my twitter feed!

Lol, #IBEEBELIEVE hilarious.

 

[DurangoCy]

I hope we can stay together as a conference, but their proposed changes for the LHN do not seem adequate enough to stabilize this conference. I wish their compromise to Texas would have been as follows:

To stabilize this conference and maximize the value of its content for the good of every member we need to establish a Big XII network. Each member would be entitled to an equal share of that revenue with one exception. For the next 20 years we realize you would be giving up a lucrative contract that would net you $12m dollars per year. Therefore, the remaining conference members would guarantee that you would receive that share as a minimum over the next 20 years. If the network would provide more than $12m on an annual basis to each member then you would receive an equal share to everyone else.

This would allow Texas to still receive there contract value, yet it would allow the Big XII to maximize the value of it's content and provide exposure for every member.

Agreed, but do we have any idea what that discrepancy would be? Big I imagine.

 

[alarson]

If its what it takes to keep everyone happy, then do it i guess.

I think its dumb to be blaming beebe though. OU\UT\TAMU (and NU too, but theyre already out) really need to look in a mirror and theyll see where the real problems in this conference lie. A commish is only as effective as his conference members will allow him to be. Hard for any commish to be proactive and sell the conference when its top members are undermining it from within.

 

[rebecacy]

I have been asking since last year why they haven't voted him out yet!

Because the real point of that article is not Beebe -- it is the point that Texas must now play fair and they did not in the past because Beebe allowed it. No one had the guts or ability to say it until we had Texas painted into this corner. This is not about Beebe as much as it is about what he let TEXAS get away with. What is significant is that TX's behavior will no longer be tolerated. AGAIN BRILLIANT!! I just love how this is playing out. OU has balls and really is trying to do the right thing here. Boren = our best friend. Soon we should hear how the LHN deal with ESPN must become the BIG XII network.

 

[Alswelk]

If its what it takes to keep everyone happy, then do it i guess.

I think its dumb to be blaming beebe though. OU\UT\TAMU (and NU too, but theyre already out) really need to look in a mirror and theyll see where the real problems in this conference lie. A commish is only as effective as his conference members will allow him to be. Hard for any commish to be proactive and sell the conference when its top members are undermining it from within.

None of your logic here, sir, we need a scapegoat!

 

[mt85]

Agreed, but do we have any idea what that discrepancy would be? Big I imagine.

Even if it meant zero for every Big XII member for the next 20 years. It provides everyone with exposure and in the long haul everyone would benefit from it. If the Longhorn content is worth 12m per year you would think the entire conferences value would have to be worth at least 20m (but that is just a wild guess).

 

[iowast8fan]

I hope we can stay together as a conference, but their proposed changes for the LHN do not seem adequate enough to stabilize this conference. I wish their compromise to Texas would have been as follows:

To stabilize this conference and maximize the value of its content for the good of every member we need to establish a Big XII network. Each member would be entitled to an equal share of that revenue with one exception. For the next 20 years we realize you would be giving up a lucrative contract that would net you $12m dollars per year. Therefore, the remaining conference members would guarantee that you would receive that share as a minimum over the next 20 years. If the network would provide more than $12m on an annual basis to each member then you would receive an equal share to everyone else.

This would allow Texas to still receive their contract value, yet it would allow the Big XII to maximize the value of it's content and provide exposure for every member.

WHAT?!? Looks like more of "Texas runs the place" mentality. OU has the cards to leave and kill the conference, why would they make a demand like this that still provides Texas an advantage over the other schools?

 

[clone99]

It can but a Big 12 without Texas is not near as good of option for them as the Pac 12 because there would not be near as much money to be made.

But lets say that Texas is evicted out of the conference. get BYU, WV or whatever 3 teams they can get with a more equal money sharing deal more like the big 10 would there be that much less money for a Oklahoma? Not sure about that. Yes the Conference may not have as much money, but Texas wouldn't get to take what they want first.

 

[stateofmind]

I think Condoleezza Rice should be approached. Her dream job is to be the NFL commissioner. What a great stepping stone would this be? Fix this mess and make it stronger than ever and head to the NFL.

 

[Wesley]

I have no source, but I have felt all along this is all posturing to get the conference "equal" and get Texas to cry uncle.

Yeah, but Pitt and Syracuse walked the gangplank while Bevo and Sooner were squabbling. Did we not tell them this was all a big show to get rid of beebeman?

 

[geburgess]

Give him the boot.

And not the fun one full of beer, like kick him out.

And not out as in outside to play, like no longer here.

 

[rebecacy]

If its what it takes to keep everyone happy, then do it i guess.

I think its dumb to be blaming beebe though. OU\UT\TAMU (and NU too, but theyre already out) really need to look in a mirror and theyll see where the real problems in this conference lie. A commish is only as effective as his conference members will allow him to be. Hard for any commish to be proactive and sell the conference when its top members are undermining it from within.

With all due respect. You are a million miles off on this one.

 

[3GenClone]

If its what it takes to keep everyone happy, then do it i guess.

I think its dumb to be blaming beebe though. OU\UT\TAMU (and NU too, but theyre already out) really need to look in a mirror and theyll see where the real problems in this conference lie. A commish is only as effective as his conference members will allow him to be. Hard for any commish to be proactive and sell the conference when its top members are undermining it from within.

Well now the conference has the opportunity to respond. Now that A&M is out the door and Nebraska has left, the "have nots" suddenly outnumber the "haves" in the Big 12. I can only assume that this would mean the Big 12 would promote a leader that had the interests of all Big 12 members in mind, but who knows how long it takes until corruption inevitably enters into the equation.

 

[Rods79]

This kind of stuff needs to get said. 100% in support of what is being discussed here.

But let's not let the hypocrisy of NU and OU cloud the matter. They helped create this jacked up situation by voting with UT to screw the other schools when the conference was first set up. Now they whine when UT plays its hand.

You know, this point gets put out there too much IMO, and it really isn't that big of a deal now. It made sense at that time (with the way our archaic TV contracts were set up which handed out less than 10 mil. to each school in a supposedly "elite" conference...porridge compared to other deals) for the big time draws to be given more money...and it wasn't even that much of a difference. With the way conferences are today, this just won't fly and we are seeing it.

I hated that our TV contracts were from the stone age, everyone did, and then the poorly timed Tier 2 extension put us even further behind everyone else. This blame should be put solely on leadership (Dan Beebe, and therefore TU) not being able to see the writing on the wall with equality in the future and the success of the Big Ten Network. I don't really blame it on OU, or NU anymore.

 

[4Cyclones]

But lets say that Texas is evicted out of the conference. get BYU, WV or whatever 3 teams they can get with a more equal money sharing deal more like the big 10 would there be that much less money for a Oklahoma? Not sure about that. Yes the Conference may not have as much money, but Texas wouldn't get to take what they want first.

This! Perverbial hammer hitting nail directly on head. Except, use sledge!

 

[kilgore_trout]

Amen!!!!!