Please please please bring back big12 title game
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I like championship games when they're not rematches. Rematches aren't as bad if the game has impacts outside the conference though - if the winner makes it into the national playoff, etc.
I'd like a championship game, but only if we have 12 teams. Since the latter won't happen, the former won't either.
Ive been saying this for awhile now. Since we just released our schedule for next season, take a look at each team, who they return, etc., and make your best educated guess for what the standings will look like a year from today. Then, schedule 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4, 5 vs 6, 7 vs 8, 9 vs 10 on the last weekend. Builds an extra bye week for every team in the schedule as well.
For example, if they did this last year, today we would have...
TCU vs Baylor
OU vs OSU
Texas vs WV
KSU vs TT
ISU vs KU
A recent story noted that the Big XII was more often hurt than helped by the conference title game. There is also the concern that two new schools would reduce each existing schools share of the conference pie by about four million dollars. Other projections are more positive. I think the dollars are close enough that a little shove from the NCAA or a network would get us into the mood if we could find the right new members. Selfishly, it would help us if we could add an easier non-con opponent. Our bowl years were facilitated by not having to play the full slate of power schools.
Id like a championship game as well. Just seems unfinished without one. Don't like it. Although I dont like much about the Big12.
It hurt us once. It could possibly be saving us this year by not having one. In the history of the Big 12 Championship game, there were 11 games where one team was ranked in the top 3 of the BCS, and 5 times that team lost.
ok, so I've been watching the espn clips of the CFP committee all watching football games.
I got my XXX chewed out the other day because I said that Dr (Saint) Tom Osborne and Barry A were both on the committee. NOT so I was lectured.
If they're not on the committee, why are they both in the room watching the games?
yeah, the fix ain't in.
go cyclones
I got my XXX chewed out the other day because I said that Dr (Saint) Tom Osborne and Barry A were both on the committee. NOT so I was lectured.
If they're not on the committee, why are they both in the room watching the games?
yeah, the fix ain't in.
go cyclones
I take the cohesion of a 9 game round robin over anything those guys are doing. When you only see teams once every four years (or eight years in your home stadium,) can you really call it a conference?
Ten teams is perfect.
If you have the most members on the committee a championship game will help you more often than not.
If you have the least members on the committee a championship game will hurt you more often than not.
If you have the most members on the committee not having a championship game will help you more often than not.
If you have the least members on the committee not having a championship game will hurt you more often than not.
This is very very very very very simple stuff. A small committee with unequal representation across conferences is basically designed to be biased.
Exactly. Some years it will help, others it will hurt. Just look at the SEC. If Alabama loses today, the SEC gets left out.
But think of the enormous opportunity Iowa was able to get by not having to butt heads with the top teams 3 out of 5 straight weeks. It takes it toll. I'd like to have that opportunity some day. Won't happen in a round-robin big12.
The conference is also missing out on the exposure the championship games bring. B12 not having one just further relegates the B12 as a regional niche conference. The CCGs are a chance for the conference's brand to get plastered in front of millions of eyeballs if it is ahalfway decent matchup. That adds up over time. Also, look at the spectacle of these games-they are fun for the fans and add to conference cohesion. It is also very likely that both teams would be ranked--one high, and one 10-15. That gives the higher team another quality win for the CFP playoff committee and if the higher ranked team can't win that game then they probably don't deserve to be in the playoff. Anybody outside of Oklahoma or Texas would be left out again this year. Just split the 10 teams into 2 divisions and play one. B12 can't get by trying to do something novel because momentum is too strong in the direction the other conferences are headed.
The Big 12 shouldn't care about whether it has a team that deserves to get in the playoff. It should just care about getting its teams into the playoff. It will do that this year without a CCG. It very nearly got two teams in last year without a CCG - if two other CCGs would have gone the other way to shut out the B1G/ACC's best teams. We're only two years in but I think the evidence so far supports not having a CCG to maximize the teams you get in the playoff.
I also don't know how you would do 2 divisions with 10 teams. If the Big 12 did a CCG, I imagine they would keep the round-robin and then just send the top 2 teams in the league to Jerryworld at the end. So this year, we would have had Oklahoma playing Oklahoma State yesterday. An OU win would have locked them into the playoff. (They already were.) An OSU win would have knocked the Big 12 out of the playoff.
Not having a title-game bit the Big 12 last season. This year, it might've been an advantage.
Establish a format and live with it.
Establish a format and live with it.
I AGREE...Do you guys remember the BIG XII title game in Kansas City where underdog KState beat Bobby Stoops and OU on a very cold night?
The Sooners looked like they would rather be anywhere else than Arrowhead Stadium....and of course lost, if that would have happened this year the conf would get NO team in the 4 team playoffs......
What its really about is the Number of Television sets you have in your conf. footprint.....and in the big 12 we don't have enough eyeballs on the TV's to command national respect.......
