POLLARD'S STATEMENT ON STATE FUNDING

[isufbcurt]

For Sullivan, here is a former ISU player who is supposedly one of our all-time greats and also happens to be running a successful AAU program in the state. The connections he has may be helpful and his knowlege of the AAU system would be a good test for an interviewing coach. As for his relationship with the current staff, who cares? They'd be gone.

Calling Sullivan an all-time great is a huge stretch, imo. Yes he was great at free throw shooting buts thats all I'll say he was great at.

 

[isufbcurt]

The athletic department PAYS the university tuition money for each of their athletes. That's the way it is everywhere...unless the scholarships are endowed by donors. Then of course the endowment pays the university for tuition. Room and board gets paid to the university if the athlete lives on campus, paid to the athlete if he/she lives off campus.

This is correct.

 

[CTTB78]

There isn't anything JP can do now with McD's contract after the horse is out of the barn. Regarding incentives, they should be reflective of how marketable you think your employee is.

I guess I don't agree with JP's assertion that he needed to be really creative with a guy from a mid major that called and asked for the job. How many people were beating down McD's door?

 

[Tornado man]

Also Jake Sullivan isn't even connected with the program right now so he's another one that doesn't make much sense.

If we're looking for a new coach in a year, I would welcome Jake Sullivan on a search committee.
I couldn't care less that he doesn't get along with Gmac...

 

[CYdTracked]

I get the connection with Jake but that's something the next coach will have to work to build that relationship after he's hired. Jake having input on who to hire isn't really going to matter much in the big picture IMO because I don't really consider him being involved with ISU basketball enough right now as it is to have enough pull regarding a coaching hire. DG and SC aren't going to be here long enough to matter because year 1 and probably 2 will be the building years for the foundation of a new system so wether they fit or not isn't going to matter by the time a new coach gets his players and system in here because both will be gone.

 

[Bobber]

All they have to do is sell beer at FB and BB games. Their regular season football attendance has been less than awe inspiring considering their on the field success.

This...

We need to have a German Style Octoberfest for a week down in Ames Homecoming week. All the proceeds could go to support the athletic program. The athletic program wouldn't have a thing to worry about with the dollars that would flow from that.

 

[CYdTracked]

ISU has no say over selling alcohol, it's NCAA policy so you can throw that idea out the window...

 

[Incyte]

ISU has no say over selling alcohol, it's NCAA policy so you can throw that idea out the window...

That's actually not the case. Many more programs around the country are starting to serve beer to increase revenue.

 

[Frak]

Calling Sullivan an all-time great is a huge stretch, imo. Yes he was great at free throw shooting buts thats all I'll say he was great at.

OK, wasn't he just honored in the last few years as one of our ten best? I remember him out on the court with the framed poster and jersey. Debate whether he deserved it, sure, but he did get it.

 

[Tornado man]

ISU has no say over selling alcohol, it's NCAA policy so you can throw that idea out the window...

There is no such rule, except at NCAA championship events.
The number of schools selling beer is dwindling, however, as responsibility and liabilty issues increase. Colorado, for example, stopped selling beer 15 years ago...

 

[CycloneWarning]

The athletic department PAYS the university tuition money for each of their athletes. That's the way it is everywhere...unless the scholarships are endowed by donors. Then of course the endowment pays the university for tuition. Room and board gets paid to the university if the athlete lives on campus, paid to the athlete if he/she lives off campus.

I really don't know why this is so hard to follow. Just read his statement. The statement is clearly in response to the state funding issue and he clearly tells you how much state funding support the athletic dept gets, and how it has been reduced.

The graph and statement talk about REVENUES, not expenses. So there is no information provided in the statement that talks about how much the AD might or might not pay to the University, or whether these amounts have been netted out or not.

We should just accept the statement for what it is, an indication that the AD office does receive state support, but that amount is minor and is decreasing consistent with the intent of the legislature.

 

[matt8879]

ISU has no say over selling alcohol, it's NCAA policy so you can throw that idea out the window...

Actually the NCAA dicourages it, but doesn't outlaw it. Louisville Cardinal - U of L continues alcohol sales

I did hear somewhere that the state of IA did ban alcohol at college events though.

 

[VeloClone]

Calling Sullivan an all-time great is a huge stretch, imo. Yes he was great at free throw shooting buts thats all I'll say he was great at.

Try these Iowa State records on for size:

Career 3's made 270 (#1) [80 more than #2]
Season 3's made 3 of top 11 seasons
Career 3 % .424 (#1)
Season 3 % .476 01-02(#1)
Season 3 % 2 of top 4 seasons

I don't know if this makes him an all time great, but I think it clearly goes way beyond just free throw shooting.

 

[VeloClone]

There is no such rule, except at NCAA championship events.
The number of schools selling beer is dwindling, however, as responsibility and liabilty issues increase. Colorado, for example, stopped selling beer 15 years ago...

I thought the Big 12 (or maybe the Big 8) had a rule against it but Colorado was grandfathered in because of the Coors sponsorship that was already in place.

 

[clonz]

Why in the hell would it matter what Garrett and Christopherson thinks? DG is a senior and SC a junior, not like either of these guys will be hanging around for long that who we hire as coach is going to have any effect on them. Geez, you've had some really strange posts around here today! Also Jake Sullivan isn't even connected with the program right now so he's another one that doesn't make much sense. If you've read anything around here the past few years you'd know that the rumor is he and the current ISU coaching staff don't necessarily see eye to eye and the fact that he hasn't made much effort to change that perception himself to me doesn't give what he thinks much weight. I like Jake but I wouldn't consider him a very influential person with our basketball program right now.

I would say you need to make the players think they are involved even though you're not letting them decide. That way you don't have 6 players leave every coaching change. That's what it seems like it takes if you aren't having current success in Men's BBall now.

 

[Frak]

I get the connection with Jake but that's something the next coach will have to work to build that relationship after he's hired. Jake having input on who to hire isn't really going to matter much in the big picture IMO because I don't really consider him being involved with ISU basketball enough right now as it is to have enough pull regarding a coaching hire. DG and SC aren't going to be here long enough to matter because year 1 and probably 2 will be the building years for the foundation of a new system so wether they fit or not isn't going to matter by the time a new coach gets his players and system in here because both will be gone.

See, I think that you misunderstand me. I'm not saying that these guys pick a new coach. I'm not even saying they "sign off" on a new coach. They don't have to be involved with the staff/program down the line either. I'm talking sitting in on the interviews, maybe asking a question or two and then giving Pollard your thoughts at the end. IMO Pollard would need help in this area and some outside comments by various people with a different perspective may be just the help that he needs.

 

[Tornado man]

I thought the Big 12 (or maybe the Big 8) had a rule against it but Colorado was grandfathered in because of the Coors sponsorship that was already in place.

Colorado's last year of beer sales at Folsom Field was 1995. I have attended several ISU games in Boulder since (including 1996) and there has never been beer sold at the stadium.

 

[VeloClone]

Colorado's last year of beer sales at Folsom Field was 1995. I have attended several ISU games in Boulder since (including 1996) and there has never been beer sold at the stadium.

Probably was a Big 8 rule, then.

 

[Frak]

I really don't know why this is so hard to follow. Just read his statement. The statement is clearly in response to the state funding issue and he clearly tells you how much state funding support the athletic dept gets, and how it has been reduced.

The graph and statement talk about REVENUES, not expenses. So there is no information provided in the statement that talks about how much the AD might or might not pay to the University, or whether these amounts have been netted out or not.

We should just accept the statement for what it is, an indication that the AD office does receive state support, but that amount is minor and is decreasing consistent with the intent of the legislature.

Yeah, I understand the statement. All I'm saying is that those expenses are always going to need to be paid to ISU no matter whether the university gives the AD any money or not. They are two completely separate things. And the university cannot give the AD a "deal" on tution, etc.

But, yes, I agree with your last paragraph. The state gives the university a chunk of money. A small portion of that chunk is allocated toward the AD. That chunk has been decreasing these past few years and will soon be eliminated, due to the work of Pollard and his group. Great job by them.

 

[Tornado man]

Probably was a Big 8 rule, then.

I know that the Pac-10 pressured USC to stop serving beer (they were the only conf. school still doing it) at the LA Coliseum starting with the 2006 seson. USC said they were giving up $1.8 mil a year in revenue.