PREDICTIONS: Iowa State @ Iowa

cyclones500

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2008 (vs. Iowa) we were tied 3-3 in the 4th. Offense moved the ball all day we were like 0/4 in the red zone.

That game was so freaking frustrating.

ISU didn't exactly play well enough to "deserve" to win, but I lost track of how many scoring opportunities were squandered.

In retrospect, comparing the two teams' seasons that year, maybe Iowa was half-sandbagging and it was never really winnable, despite the score.
 

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ISU takes over in the second half. 21-17 ISU

Enjoy tomorrow because this might be the best team ISU has had in the last decade. Iowa is down a little but will bounce back and be very good the next 2-3 years. Thier Oline might have 2-3 guys playing at the next level.
 

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My head tells me ISU misses 2 fgs.... burns nettens redshirt.... then he misses one.

ISU loses 20-6 (missed PAT)
 

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The 'we havent won there in forever' we keep hearing this year is a bit overstated. Sure, we haven't won there the last 4 tries, but when you look back at the final sagarin ratings, we also really weren't on the same level as iowa and likely would've lost at home.

2004- Iowa was a much better team that year (we finished #52 by sagarin ratings rank that year, iowa finished #12). Yet we still only lost 17-10
2006- Mac's last year. We would've been lucky to beat some of the better high school teams that year. Iowa finished about 40 spots ahead of us in the sagarin rankings, so again, looking back they look like a heavy favorite with or without home field advantage
2008- Chizik's second year. Again, we were damn lucky to beat anyone that year. Iowa finished nearly 100(!) spots better than us in the final sagarin rankings.
2010- Iowa finished 40 spots ahead this year. Should it have been the beating it was? No. But again, major favorite.

Now look at say... last year. We finished 2 spots above them. We also barely beat them. That seems about right.

The last time we beat them in IC, we had a team that ultimately finished 30 spots away, but during the first half of the season was playing like a much better team than the second half. It wasn't nearly as much of an upset as it would've been for us to win in any year since. The time before that (2000), we finished a good deal above them.

The moral of this long, winding story? Its not necessarily being in kinnick that has killed us.... its been that iowa was just that much better of a team those years (and often, it was just a matter of us really sucking). The same story can hold for wins in JTS too... we tended to be much closer, or ahead of iowa those years. It wasn't some magical 'superbowl', but merely a result playing out that was generally within expectations based on results the rest of the year.

Given that we are better this year, and i believe better than iowa (as i think iowa is down a bit and us up a bit), i don't think we need to fear kinnick as much as some think we do. If we have the better team, it will show on saturday.



There you go again, bothering us with actual facts.
 

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To be honest I just don't know how Iowa stops Johnson and White. Iowa is probably thinking the same thing. I love the spread and passing, but I hope to God we don't go away from the running game too much in this game. We should have close to 200 yards on the ground in this game. Iowa's d-line= not good.



I think the gazillion quick passes to the left and right had something to do with the big holes up the middle on running plays. Good play-calling.
 

CycloneErik

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I'm sticking with a 27-20 Cyclone victory.
The two field goals leave Iowa fans angrily questioning whether Kirk understands where the end zone is, and how to get plays called to go that direction.

We get the winning and the whining. It's a win that keeps giving all year round.
 

scyclonekid

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Not saying anything I just do not want to jinks anything, I just never have a good feeling going to that place. Hope we win.
 

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I feel like I have seen this movie before....
Iowa plays like crap and really isn't very good but squeak out 4-5 wins like last weekend.. They get a favorable schedule to start the season and end up with 7 wins. They also get bumped up in the bowl order because Nebraska and Michigan State make the BCS while Penn State and OSU are not eligible.

I think we see a different Iowa team today, but I will still pick ISU 24-17.

The only way I think we lose is special teams and turnovers go nuts.