If this statement is true, it is a sad statement for ISU Football. Rohach has been the second string QB since the start of spring practice. ISU's second string QB should be ready to play and expect to play the first game every year. ISU's first football game should be an easy game that should allow a lot of second string players to gain experience. Additionally, any second string player should be ready in any game if the starter is hurt or even loses their helmet. Unfortunately, ISU could not win its first game and the starters had to play the whole game. Compare Texas Tech's two top quarterbacks with ISU's. Tech's starter this year was a true freshman walk-on and their next QB is a redshirt freshman, the same as Rohach. Tech started winning right off with a true freshman, who had not attended spring practice. He was somehow ready for their first game and they won every game he started. Their second string started his first game against ISU and in his first two starts has thrown for more than 400 yards each game. Why are Tech's QB's ready to play and Rohach was not ready to play the second game of the season. Another thing is that Tech's coaching staff has been there less than a year and ISU's staff has been in place for more than 4 years. The problem seems to come down to coaching. ISU's coaches are not getting our back-up QB's ready to play. Are they spending all of their time with the starter? I do not know. I just know that it reflects poorly on the coaches, if the second string players are not ready to play.
Problem with statement that Rohach was not ready for the Iowa game.
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Our staff won't ever take a chance on an inexperienced guy. Can anyone tell me Bundrage shouldn't have played earlier? Richardson? For all we know, Lanning and Hodge are the best on the team. Also, Rohach was in that Elite 11 deal. Don't tell me he's not capable of playing.
CycloneErik
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I'm just glad that we set Rohach up to fail when we finally did put him in. That should help his health and his confidence, which makes for effective QB development.
He was invited to a camp where they chose the elite 11. There were probably over 30 kids there, and some of the top high school QB's in the nation that season didn't attend. It doesn't mean anything that he was at that camp.
Beginning to wonder what our coaches do with the time they are allotted by the NCAA to have the guys there on the field practicing.
It means someone thought he was alright. My point still stands that he should be ready to play. I also don't buy the line of **** that he improved so much over one month.
CycloneErik
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I did not. It really was the only way to kneecap him without actually using a blunt instrument.
He was around for a year prior and he had been practicing. He would have been no different playing against Iowa than he was last night. This is like Rhoads saying he put Richardson in because he "Threw the ball well in warmups."
I don't get the way people are just pulling things out of thin air to blame the coaches for...
Yes, I guess that TD pass was a real "failure". Then there are Grant's own words:
My bold. Don't ask me where the last sentence came from, but I wasn't going to edit it.
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Yes, I guess that TD pass was a real "failure". Then there are Grant's own words:
My bold. Don't ask me where the last sentence came from, but I wasn't going to edit it.
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Perhaps. But getting live reps with the 1's for multiple weeks in a row would obviously be a plus, which Rohach has done since the Iowa game. I'm not picking a side here, just stating a relevant piece of info.
So now we are expecting a freshman to come in and lead an offense down the field when our normal starter can't?
I think there are some here that need to step back from the keyboard for a few days.
I think there are some here that need to step back from the keyboard for a few days.
Didn't someone state that his reps never changed? I realize he was injured and if he were a true freshman that could be an explanation but the kid knows the playbook. He got the "mental reps" we hear about. I'm just not buying he wasn't ready and that there's been rapid improvement over the last month. If they said the injury was still lingering, I could buy that.
I don't know how good Rohach is now, or how good he will eventually be. But I do know that throwing him in there last night at what, 27-0 (or whatever) was an awful situation for the young man to be in. Having said that, I was a fan of the switch, until they brought Sam back in. That I did not understand (let the guy rest already).
But back to my original point - at that point in that game where literally everything that could potentially go wrong was going wrong - no running game, no pass protection - everybody was already pressing because of the deficit - I'd be willing to guess that there are very few young QB's out there who could have done much in that scenario.
Again, I have no clue how good the kid is, but I'm not going to judge the rest of his career on that debacle (the entire team in a 64-point loss).
But back to my original point - at that point in that game where literally everything that could potentially go wrong was going wrong - no running game, no pass protection - everybody was already pressing because of the deficit - I'd be willing to guess that there are very few young QB's out there who could have done much in that scenario.
Again, I have no clue how good the kid is, but I'm not going to judge the rest of his career on that debacle (the entire team in a 64-point loss).
I'm honestly not sure about that Tre. I know at one point he had a thumb injury on his throwing hand. I think there was a hamstring issue too. Not sure on the amount of reps missed though.
And in regards to the improvement over a month, it's kind of the same scenario with Sam last year. The coaches were begging him to win the job mid-season and they just didn't think he was good enough. He finally earned their trust, they put him in vs. Kansas and here we are today.
I could swear that CPR said that Rohach didn't practice much for a while, then after SR was hurt, getting all the reps helped make up for the time Grant had missed.
