Prohm got pissed

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can you imagine mad frans reaction if someone yelled that out at Iowa's senior day?

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Great joke involving this gif:
Q: why did Ron Artest leave the game early?
A: he wanted to beat the crowd.
 
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Sorry, I'm not a basketball expert like some of you. I can't give you "specifics". If you want to grouse and complain and assume that they're dead in the water, I'm not going to change your mind with anything I say. You don't really want to hear anything positive, that's pretty clear. All I know is, this team has won more games than they've lost, and I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt. With that, carry on with your complaining.

Fair enough. I hope like hell they can get it turned around, I just don't see it. I don't know what Steve did all offseason to prepare but it doesn't appear he did much to grow as a tactician. I've had the chance to attend some practices the past few years and it's the same stuff. To go thru this season and not make any legitimate adjustments to his system is disappointing.

This will be my last post because people seem to confuse my constructive criticism with being downright negative. I want him to succeed as I do believe he is a good man representing good values. Just don't believe he has the coaching skills to beat most of the coaches in our league.
 

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For the record, it was audible, but not loud. I wouldn't even say the guy yelled. It was more like speaking out loud when everything was really quiet. He didn't shout down Prohm. Rather, he just said it during a pause. At the time, I wondered if other people heard it because it wasn't very loud.

I disagreed because I was on the opposite side of the court in the upper deck (section 209) and it was loud and clear.

I kind of wished the guy was in my area so I could of snapped a pic of him and posted it on twitter to shame him.
 
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Wasn’t sure if you were talking about Fred or Steve in this post? Might want to check Kenpom sometime too before you talk about our offense being “stifled”.
I’ve seen enough scoring droughts spanning across media and coaches timeouts with my own eyes to know what stifled looks like.
 
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I’ve argued that it happened long before this. I will keep the politics out of it but any collection or group of people from a rural state and super rural areas are going to have “economic anxiety” if you know what I mean.

They always think that someone is trying to step on them or pull some wool over their eyes and they deserve more and they deserve better because they are who they are and when they dont get it the rage levels go off the charts. The straw men take center stage, and they zero in on a single target to focus all of their rage and self hate in to.

Joining SuperFanatic just to give this the dumb tag it so richly deserves. JFC.
 

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Ok? Not sure why that matters but

honoring a group of student athletes.
Honoring a group of cyclone seniors
Honoring a group of cyclone basketball players

However you want to call it, it doesn’t change the fact that it was a classless thing to do.
When its convenient they’re just kids. Or if it’s convenient they deserve to be paid... like adults.

The hypocrisy of the ncaa is comical. This does not take away the stupidity of yelling in that moment. I just continue to be more and more bothered by the hypocrisy of the whole ncaa system.
 

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Sorry. Posted this in the 'flow' of the thread. But, now after reading the rest of the thread, the question of first hand knowledge of the huddle conversations was raised several times (without an answer).

In place I want to say a couple things about 'character'. A true person's character doesn't reveal itself after wins, but rather after losses. I figure when I stoop so low as to be unprofessional or disrespectful like that, that I've also lost the title of being a true 'fan'. And, accordingly, should remove myself from the masses of great fans! My bet is people like that have a small group of friends which try to build their own egos by belittling others.

Bare with me for a second. I'm going to thump my own chest as an example of how to transform teams. I've been on 7 teams in my life of my respective sport all the way to semi pro. Every single one of those teams I joined when they were in last place and left when they were in first. I'm certainly NOT what I would call a 'gifted' athlete. Instead, what I brought to the table was 'cohesiveness' and 'smarts'. Fans are no different. That's what makes Iowa State fans so good. The vast majority support 'respect' and 'decency'. This thread, though sprinkled with the nay sayers, in general shows the decency I'm touting.
I got tired of talking about it and took a hiatus from this thread around that time.

As far as first hand knowledge goes... every look inside his huddle on TV ever has almost always included this exact sentence. “Guys, we gotta be better at _____” and is never followed with coaching as to how to do that. In fact, I have never seen a TV shot from inside a Prohm huddle with actual coaching happening from Prohm. There was plenty of footage of Monte or amazing or Georges doing coaching.

As far as Prohm goes... you and I have a fundamental disagreement. I don't disagree that with a lot of problems, doing nothing is the best course of action and staying the course tends to get you to where you are going. I just think Prohm has a fundamental flaw that gives him a very limited ceiling in the Big 12.
 

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I got tired of talking about it and took a hiatus from this thread around that time.

As far as first hand knowledge goes... every look inside his huddle on TV ever has almost always included this exact sentence. “Guys, we gotta be better at _____” and is never followed with coaching as to how to do that. In fact, I have never seen a TV shot from inside a Prohm huddle with actual coaching happening from Prohm. There was plenty of footage of Monte or amazing or Georges doing coaching.

As far as Prohm goes... you and I have a fundamental disagreement. I don't disagree that with a lot of problems, doing nothing is the best course of action and staying the course tends to get you to where you are going. I just think Prohm has a fundamental flaw that gives him a very limited ceiling in the Big 12.
I have nothing to say in response to this post. I just really want to know which player's name auto-corrected to "amazing"...was it Naz? :D
 

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Neither one of those guys adjusted quickly. Neither one of those guys were quick to call timeouts.

I don’t know what prohms elite skill is. Or if he even has one. But your criticisms were weaknesses of both of these guys that people consider the best ever here along with Floyd.

The reactions from the anti prohmers is pretty telling.

All of the same things these two venerated coaches did, suddenly is bad.
 

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This is just so wrong. Hoiberg adjusted the offense on a dime to stress the other teams D. Why do you think his out of timeout plays were so good? They were tailored to the exact personel on the opposing team at that moment.

Are you saying that he didn’t make adjustments to his D quick enough? So basically he was bad at his weakness? Is that your argument?

Larry was the coach of one of the greatest teams in ISU history, but I’m not really willing to carry his water. He had Tinsley and Fizer and some really good role players who bought in and maxed out.

this Is funny. Like most revision history, the guy becomes dean smith.

People complained about Fred’s game management and adjustments all the time. Having Melvin Ejim and especially Deandre Kane, and two big shots by Naz made a lot of those problems go away.