Randy Pete: When it comes to transfers, Hoiberg gets it

[jcats322]

This, I'm not so sure of. Hoiberg's not the first to utilize transfers/JUCO's; he's just the first to have pulled it off so cleanly. Guys like Huggins can employ similar tactics, but Hoiberg seems to really have a magic touch when it comes to picking up guys with varying degrees of baggage and giving them another chance. I'm not sure that can be replicated with any sort of consistency.

It will be very tough for anyone else to replicate it when Fred gets first pick off the transfer pile!

 

[johnnydugouts]

wait a sec...do folks actually think that Randy Pete hates the clones? thats pretty ridiculous. hell, there is a faux twitter handle that mocks randy's over-the-top cyclone spin.

 

[johnnydugouts]

There should be no restriction on graduate transfers. A normal student who graduates can transfer to any school of their choosing to do their graduate studies. Why can't an athlete? This is silly that it is even being discussed.

this is correct. i also think the rule helps balance out the LOI/transfer restrictions that dont apply to coaches.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

wait a sec...do folks actually think that Randy Pete hates the clones? thats pretty ridiculous. hell, there is a faux twitter handle that mocks randy's over-the-top cyclone spin.

People see what they want to. Randy is nothing but fair to ISU.

 

[Dingus]

The grad transfer rule shouldn't change if for no other reason than it's a bit of a bone thrown to kids that red shirted their freshman year.

Otherwise a red shirt year shouldn't affect a kid's eligibility if they should transfer.

 

[SyracuseCyclone]

This, I'm not so sure of. Hoiberg's not the first to utilize transfers/JUCO's; he's just the first to have pulled it off so cleanly. Guys like Huggins can employ similar tactics, but Hoiberg seems to really have a magic touch when it comes to picking up guys with varying degrees of baggage and giving them another chance. I'm not sure that can be replicated with any sort of consistency.

He branded the program on it and now that its conveniently become an integral part of college hoops ISU recruits jucos like Kentucky recruits burger boys Transfer U is a good thing. A top 5 proven transfer with 1 year of eligibility should come every season Fred will be picking from multiple guys who drop close to 20 and have some height.

Being branded and known for transfers and three pointers is fine these guys like shooting 3s and also like transferring.

 

[HoopsTournament]

This, I'm not so sure of. Hoiberg's not the first to utilize transfers/JUCO's; he's just the first to have pulled it off so cleanly. Guys like Huggins can employ similar tactics, but Hoiberg seems to really have a magic touch when it comes to picking up guys with varying degrees of baggage and giving them another chance. I'm not sure that can be replicated with any sort of consistency.

I agree. Look at Frank Haith at Missouri. He has recruited just as many transfers as Fred and has failed miserably and is now pulling a McDermott to get out.

 

[HoopsTournament]

There are two big reasons that the grad transfer rule exists:

1) Once a student graduates, he should be allowed to pursue a graduate degree at any institution that he chooses.
2) Most students graduate in 4 years, not 3, so that means he redshirted. He will only have one year left to play the final year.

Basically this rule says that a player cannot transfer if they don't have a redshirt year left UNLESS they complete a degree. If you get rid of this rule, then you are now adding a disincentive for student-athletes to get a degree. And anything that takes away an incentive to get a degree does not make sense.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

wait a sec...do folks actually think that Randy Pete hates the clones? thats pretty ridiculous. hell, there is a faux twitter handle that mocks randy's over-the-top cyclone spin.

He is such a quagmire for me. I hear him at the press conferences, and almost every time he gets a short laugh and an exasperated response from Rhoads or Hoiberg because his questions are ridiculous, far fetched, or just stupid. I see articles from him where I can't believe how anti-ISU he seems, and then he writes stuff like this from time to time. He is such a weird person... Hearing his voice, and the way he asks his questions, (which mind you, he tries to direct people to say what he wants SO OFTEN!!!!) I can't believe he can write 400 words coherently.

 

[CarolinaCy]

Because he's tired of the constant Cyclone leaning slant that the Rag has been putting out there. He's even tried to organize boycotts of this newspaper and the sportswriters they employ. He reads every single article, everyday, just to see what new way the newspaper will slight Iowa and then runs to his favorite message board to tell everyone about it.

Thank goodness no Cyclone fans ever do this.

 

[alarson]

There are two big reasons that the grad transfer rule exists:

1) Once a student graduates, he should be allowed to pursue a graduate degree at any institution that he chooses.
2) Most students graduate in 4 years, not 3, so that means he redshirted. He will only have one year left to play the final year.

Basically this rule says that a player cannot transfer if they don't have a redshirt year left UNLESS they complete a degree. If you get rid of this rule, then you are now adding a disincentive for student-athletes to get a degree. And anything that takes away an incentive to get a degree does not make sense.

Thats the thing, even if it isnt necessarily the most fair thing competitively (it encourages top players from lower-end schools to leave to higher end schools right when theyre at their peak level) as far as advancing the mission of student athletes, i have zero problem with throwing a reward out to those players who complete the most important mission of a student athlete, graduating, even if the graduate degree is just an excuse to play another year. Once theyve graduated i think goal #1 has really been met. Its one of the few things that is very student-focused, and it really should remain.

 

[WIB]

I find it hard to read Randy's articles. He just comes off as so arrogant.

 

[heitclone]

This, I'm not so sure of. Hoiberg's not the first to utilize transfers/JUCO's; he's just the first to have pulled it off so cleanly. Guys like Huggins can employ similar tactics, but Hoiberg seems to really have a magic touch when it comes to picking up guys with varying degrees of baggage and giving them another chance. I'm not sure that can be replicated with any sort of consistency.

I think you're right when it comes to underclassmen and juco transfers, they are always going to be a crap shoot but the graduate transfers are a different thing. That's what I think the "new era" in college bball is more about. A guy who has graduated and wants to transfer is more likely to come in with his head on his shoulders. I think that can be replicated with some consistency. It's a much safer transfer situation than having a guy who has to sit out a year.

 

[CloneJob]

If you follow Pete on Twitter the Hok bias is sickening.

 

[CyFy]

I don't think being bias is the probelm. I think he isn't that great of a sports writer.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Well he's no Blum i'll tell you that.

 

[CarolinaCy]

I don't get the love for this article. It doesn't tell Cyclone fans anything we didn't already know, and it's not very well written.

 

[Cydkar]

He is such a quagmire for me. I hear him at the press conferences, and almost every time he gets a short laugh and an exasperated response from Rhoads or Hoiberg because his questions are ridiculous, far fetched, or just stupid. I see articles from him where I can't believe how anti-ISU he seems, and then he writes stuff like this from time to time. He is such a weird person... Hearing his voice, and the way he asks his questions, (which mind you, he tries to direct people to say what he wants SO OFTEN!!!!) I can't believe he can write 400 words coherently.

I think he's fair but he's always seemed a bit weird to me.