Rather play UNI or Drake?
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Yes I know - that doesn't mean they can't be FCS though. Trying to clear that up here.
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The idea is that schools which are otherwise Division I don't want to take on the expense of running a football program with scholarships, so they banded together and have a non-scholarship conference that is still D-1 at the FCS level
ISU has gone over 6 regular season wins four times in the modern bowl era and there are people saying we should not play FCS schools. Thats GOLD!
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Yes but the bowl eligible wins against an FCS school only counts if they are scholarship awarding schools.
I was there too and I've never felt lower as a fan. Drake was actually a decent I-AA program, I believe they were coming off a 9 or 10 win season, but that was no excuse.
To answer the OP, no, we should not play a non-scholarship program in football, period.
I love the UNI rivalry and they have proven themselves a more than worthy opponent but conference scheduling and bowl requirements are almost making it not feasible for us to play them anymore.
Actually, you said Drake was a lower level football then FCS, which was wrong. However, you were right about it not counting, but your reason for it not counting was wrong. If I was grading you, Id give you 25%
We should never play a school like Drake ever, ever again. This thread is asinine and pointless.
While thats true no BCS level team no matter bowl history should not play fcs level schools. And i could care less if it hurts U of I @Cedar Falls
The first time ISU goes 5-7 with a loss to an FBS team instead of 6-6 with a win against an FCS team, this board would lose its collective mind.
IMO, ISU would have to be a consistent 8-4 team before taking FCS schools off the schedule.
Haha. Yep. We totally have the resume of a program that needs to upgrade the schedule. Clearly playing a top 10 schedule every year isn't giving us enough of a challenge.
I think where a lot of people are aiming is that they don't want to play UNI, mostly because they recently beat us (thanks Chiz) and it hasn't been a gimme game for a while. FCS SHOULD be a bonus win. Playing someone like South Dakota is going to be different than UNI. UNI players get more up for the game than another FCS school would. I'm all for the "we should never lose to UNI, so why not play them?" argument, however we have only 4 losses to UNI in our history and 3 of those have been in the last 20 years. We have only blown them out in 3 times during that time span. Of the other games 2 games we won by ONE point and another we won by 7 (2003, not a fun game to watch).
I also would like a bit of variety... signing on to play UNI practically every year until 2050 and having Iowa and the round robin means that we have only one game that provides variety. At least cycling the FCS team would provide variety.
I also would like a bit of variety... signing on to play UNI practically every year until 2050 and having Iowa and the round robin means that we have only one game that provides variety. At least cycling the FCS team would provide variety.
No.
I'd much rather have a MAC-level school in here, or even a AQ conference bottom-tier, that would be at a comparable level of "winnable", without the drawbacks of playing FCS.
Same argument Hawks fans have been using as to why they want to drop ISU from their schedule. Seriously, its UNI. Has ISU ever lost to UNI when ISU's program was not at rock bottom? As long as we put a decent team on the field, and have a good game plan going into the game, UNI should never be a concern.
Also, scheduling UNI will keep ISU in good standing with the Regents, and that can help down the road.
When ISU was playing Drake regularly, Drake was giving scholarships for football. Since going to no scholarships, ISU has not played them.
There's been more than one rock bottom, unfortunately.
The loss to Pacific doesn't take a back seat to any other rock bottom moment.
I hate UNI with the fiery passion of 1,000 suns. Granted, a majority of that is from me trying to take classes there and them completely ignoring me for 8 months, not transferring any of my credits from ISU, and even though I was a grad student made me take a "student loan 101" orientation before they would accept it. That, and they lied to me about when courses were offered.
That said, if we ever play Drake in football again, I will kick a kitten across the parking lot.
That said, if we ever play Drake in football again, I will kick a kitten across the parking lot.
The OP has to be joking!!
or clueless. As other posters mentioned when ISU played Drake, they were a nationally rated I-AA team. Today they don't offer scholarshps.
To compare UNI and Drake in FB over the past 20 years is lunacy. UNI is an elite FCS program. The UNI program is on par with most MAC teams. Drake is on par with the worst FCS teams.
I don't have a problem with ISU playing UNI as long as they are a top FCS team. They are no different than playing a MAC team from a quality of opponent.
or clueless. As other posters mentioned when ISU played Drake, they were a nationally rated I-AA team. Today they don't offer scholarshps.
To compare UNI and Drake in FB over the past 20 years is lunacy. UNI is an elite FCS program. The UNI program is on par with most MAC teams. Drake is on par with the worst FCS teams.
I don't have a problem with ISU playing UNI as long as they are a top FCS team. They are no different than playing a MAC team from a quality of opponent.
