I’m not surprised everyone’s all over the map. I think we’re going to have to wait until the PAC gets offers for their rights from the open market. Once all their options are laid out, the dominoes will start to fall.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Yeah I dont think that is necessarily true, at least not in the way you are representing it.
You really talk like the Pac was in way worse shape than you or anyone else would say just a couple months ago.
While it was a dumpster fire, of terrible decisions and mismanagement, many of which you would blame on covid, it was still a viable conference, if things would have worked out for them. What was the first nail in the coffin was the Big 10 poaching 2 members. But I know that is not something you accept because it doesnt fit your narrative....isnt that how you say it?
I think Utah will explore every option to stay in the PAC. Joining that conference catapulted the overall University to new heights and I think they feel loyal.
We’re probably in a spot where we just need to give the other 3 corners time to work through their 5 stages of grief before they eventually give in.
I imagine AZ will be coming along with whoever cracks first.
He did not say that, that is what a reporter's (Keeler) caricature of how he believes the CU administration views the Big12.
You kind of did. The neverending pursuit of $$$ means that if the Big 2 condense into the megasuperultraconference, which would then condense when they cut the fat to preserve more $$$ for themselves, which would then keep condensing to preserve more $$$ for themselves until we're left with tOSU and Bama controlling everything.
No he didnt, that was what the local media guy said he "believes" colorado "thinks" of the Big 12. And everyone blew up with it that COLORADO SAID THIS. No that was the local sports rag trying to be edgy.
I did say until they that until they get a certain number of "brands" that fit what they are trying to build. Into their own league similar to the NFL, which would then be separated from the rest in the way the P5 is to FCS level.
They may still play each year in a few games non con, but there is no real cross over between, and those in that league would be considered so far above the rest that they would be insulated for relegation back to that level.
I think if you read what I said This is what I said or was getting at.
Yeah but there's only about 10 teams that bring those elite brands that are on the same level. The NFL has 32 teams.
Either way, you're saying that at some point, the greed stops?
So, I say the Big Xii should invite Arizona, and let the rest of them sweat it out.
The CFA was messy and did start this mess by empowering the SEC and ESPN but, at the time, it actually prevented what is happening right now. The Big Ten and PAC had just signed big conference TV deals and seemed like they were destined to form two "super-leagues" with everybody else trailing behind. The SEC led the formation of the CFA, ESPN wanted the programming, and college football ended up actually changing for the better by allowing more programming access to more programs.
I think you could argue closer to 24 teams that could push to break away at least initially. And yes the NFL has 32 teams...but didnt for a long time.
But these larger brands could use this as a threat to push for a larger share of the $$$ instead of actually breaking away for a while too.
Seems pretty forward thinking. Hard to argue.
This kind of talk seems reasonable. I don't understand any of the other.
I'm not sure we belong in this thread any more. I don't think I do. Too much mega conference stuff going on for my liking.
I just hope college football can hold on. It may be over soon enough. If it gets to a weird nfl-lite mega conference, the golden goose is cooked IMO. People will just find other stuff to do.
The youngsters forget when the SEC had a suckass TV deal. For example, in 1994, on ABC, the Alabama-Auburn games was a split National Game with Illinois-Wisconson the other game in B1G Territory. Uh, Alabama was 10-0, and Auburn was 9-0-1. Meanwhile, Illinois was 6-4 and Wiscosnin was 6-3-1. WOI showed the Illinois-Wisconsin game! When I called the cable company about it (because I had to order a box to watch the Iron Bowl), they just said, WOI (which was based out of Ames at that time) was in B1G 10 Territory, and B1G 10 fans want to watch B1G 10 Football! Oh brother.
When Arizona, ASU, Colorado, and Utah join, give Arizona their full-share and the other 3 have to pay a whiny ***** tax for the first five years.
I dont know if that was so much their deal, as much as how things were done in those days. There was a lot more of that back then especially with the lack of alternative sports channels.
There aren't 24 programs at the level of tOSU, Bama, ND, etc. So if you put 10ish elite brands in with 12-14 non-elite brands, how is that different from what you currently have in the B1G and SEC as the P2?
Yep, at this point just one more defection and that house of cards will collapse. If Zona wants out now, get it done. There will be plenty of others knocking at our door as soon as it is announced.
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I remember. The SEC played second fiddle to the Big 10 on ABC. One of the reasons they ultimately moved to CBS AND became what they are. Hell, Alabama was sitting in the 3 hole behind #1 Nebraska and #2 Penn State at the time.
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If they still play other teams, then they have not broken away. There are people talking about a group of teams truly breaking away where they don't play anyone but themselves. That is different than what you are suggesting.
